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Odds are really odds? Or just the hope of odds/luck?
Leaving aside the winning odds of AA or KK preflop and the head to head matches, the odds calculation before and after the Flop, the Turn and the River, are all made under the asumption that the cards you need are still in the deck, but actually you don't know if they are still there or if they were dealt to the rest of the players. So, does that make them just a hope?
This is what I'm thinking lately, and this is the moment where enters the ability to read people, and do or call bluffes.
This is just a thought, what do you think people?. Also my apologies for my english, not my nature language
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Both, if I understand you correctly. The odds only take into account the cards that the person who is trying to interpret the odds knows about, i.e., the ones in his hand and the ones face up on the table. The rest of the cards 'could' still be in play, which is what the person interpreting the odds is hoping. That's the only way it can work.
However, most of us know that our opponent is most likely holding face cards, AX, suited connectors/gappers or a pair. That knowledge combined with any significant betting allows us to refine the odds quite a bit, to the point where we often do know what our opponent is holding.