Odd ruling in live tourney last night

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Playing in the NL Holdem tourney at the local casino last night and had it folded around to me in the small blind...blinds were 100/200 so since I had 100 chip in, I tossed a 500 chip in without saying anything, making it 600 to go. As I did so, the dealer looks at me, pauses and says that since I did not say raise, it is only a call due to the oversize chip rule in the small blind. I play here often and I have never heard any dealer tell anyone this before, but I know this dealer has been around for a couple years, so I did not question it. I also did not hear it during the pretourney rules breakdown, but I have heard that so often, I do tend to tune it out. Just curious what the thoughts may be on this. I should also say that I did win a modest pot on the flop in this hand so I am not posting this out of frustration.:)
 
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Standard ruling absolutely everywhere I play.
 
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Yep. Single chip without a verbal announcement is always a call.
 
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Very standard - really no other way I've seen it done (tourneyed in at least a dozen different locations in 5 different states). If you do not want to talk (so others cannot hear your trembling voice;) ) then use two chips to throw in - for example in this situation I grab a 25 or another 100 to throw in with the 500 making it 625 or 700 to call. This will make it automatic for the dealer to recognize as a raise.
 
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I just wanna make sure I understand. I was in the small blind, so there was a 100 chip in front of me prior to my action.....then I tossed a $500 chip in... still need verbal announcement here?
 
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Always announce intentions in live game
 
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Always announce intentions in live game

...or know the rules and ensure your actions are unambiguous. You shouldn't have to verbalise your action, though it's a good fallback in spots where you're unsure.

Standard ruling re: situation in OP by the way.
 
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Dang, so we now know the ruling, you now have to tell us what haappened during the rest of the hand. Did you win?
 
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I agree that it is a standard ruling but I have also seen guys getting away with doing what you did. I make it a point to always announce verbally my play.
 
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Dang, so we now know the ruling, you now have to tell us what haappened during the rest of the hand. Did you win?

Yes. I won the hand....I had a big hand, AA, flop was harmless, pot was small lol...lesson was learned.:D
 
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Glad to hear you won...the suspense was killing me :eek:)
 
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Yep, even in my live league, pretty much everything has to be said or you'd have 4- 100 chips thrown back at you, but alot of players do what mediablitz mentioned they will throw in more then one chip, then there isn't any question,except how much is that.
 
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Absolutely a call. Glad u still won the hand
 
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Yep, putting in one chip when it's your action without any verbal declaration is a call. If you had thrown in five 100 chips, then it would have been a raise to 600 total. Or if you had thrown in the 500 chip while saying "raise" "600" "400 more" etc, then it would have been a legal raise.
 
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Good post. I wondered how dealer knew the difference between a raise and a call when they a player threw in a big chip. Now I know. thanks for the info!
 
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Yeah, this is standard in all casinos. If you don't verbally say it, the oversized chip bet is just a plain call. I was sort of baffled at it too, but I caught on very quick.
 
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Everyone does it once and then learns to announce it properly.
As with not doing what they do in the movies saying 'call the amount and raise more'. The first word has to be raise, otherwise it is a call.
 
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Everyone does it once and then learns to announce it properly.
As with not doing what they do in the movies saying 'call the amount and raise more'. The first word has to be raise, otherwise it is a call.

Absolutely right--these days that's called a string bet.
 
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definitely standard everywhere i play, the one chip rule! you must state your intentions or its just a call.
 
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