Four Dogs
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I've never been to impressed with ESPN's wsop coverage. It's spotty and filmed more like a reality show than a sporting event. I guess I watch it more to keep up with who's who in poker than to actually learn anything. That said, it can be occasionally entertaining when something unusal happens. I was up late last night watching the WSOPE on ESPN2 and I caught a hand which I thought was very interesting.
This hand occurred between Daniel Negreanu and Shawn Deeb. The table folds around to Daniel holding 77 in the Small Blind. Shawn Deeb raises with K9o in the BB and speculates that Daniel will call as usual. Daniel in his usual a jovial spirit says something to the effect of. "Well, I'm going to Pound you back", and then clearly puts his raise in in two seperate motions. Deeb immediately calls Daniel out as making a "string Bet" as he never used the word "RAISE" and did not put his chips in in one motion.
Of coure Daniel protests in his always friendly manner but Deeb insists on a ruling from the floor. Daniel argues that it was obvious that his intention was to raise but instead of using the words "Pound you Back" he sneakily replaced it with "Pound you UP" and explains that there are many different (more colorful?) ways of declaring a raise. All the time Deeb remains silent and excepts the floors ruling to "Let it stand" without argument and promptly folds his hand.
Ater the FM leaves the coversation continues with Deeb obviously frustrated by the ruling. It seems obvious to me that Daniels intent was to raise as that is exactly what I expected to see when he said "I'm going to pond you back" and there was no real delay between the two motions. Also, given Daniels character, I don't see him attempting any funny business, but who knows. He is facing a raise out of position with a vunerable hand which he'd prefer not to see a flop with.
IMO this was a poor ruling and have to wonder whether Daniel was cut some slack based on his star power. As Deeb later pointed out, this ruling makes it too easy for somone with less integity to shoot an angle by making some cute remark about "Ginning it up" or "Buttering it up" and then taking back the raise based on his opponents reaction arguing that he never actually used the word RAISE and it would be hard for the floor to rule against him.
Watch the video and tell me what you think. The hand in question occurs about 4:15 into the clip.
YouTube- WSOPE 2009 Main Event Episode 4 Part 5/5 World Series of Poker Europe E4 ESPN 2010
This hand occurred between Daniel Negreanu and Shawn Deeb. The table folds around to Daniel holding 77 in the Small Blind. Shawn Deeb raises with K9o in the BB and speculates that Daniel will call as usual. Daniel in his usual a jovial spirit says something to the effect of. "Well, I'm going to Pound you back", and then clearly puts his raise in in two seperate motions. Deeb immediately calls Daniel out as making a "string Bet" as he never used the word "RAISE" and did not put his chips in in one motion.
Of coure Daniel protests in his always friendly manner but Deeb insists on a ruling from the floor. Daniel argues that it was obvious that his intention was to raise but instead of using the words "Pound you Back" he sneakily replaced it with "Pound you UP" and explains that there are many different (more colorful?) ways of declaring a raise. All the time Deeb remains silent and excepts the floors ruling to "Let it stand" without argument and promptly folds his hand.
Ater the FM leaves the coversation continues with Deeb obviously frustrated by the ruling. It seems obvious to me that Daniels intent was to raise as that is exactly what I expected to see when he said "I'm going to pond you back" and there was no real delay between the two motions. Also, given Daniels character, I don't see him attempting any funny business, but who knows. He is facing a raise out of position with a vunerable hand which he'd prefer not to see a flop with.
IMO this was a poor ruling and have to wonder whether Daniel was cut some slack based on his star power. As Deeb later pointed out, this ruling makes it too easy for somone with less integity to shoot an angle by making some cute remark about "Ginning it up" or "Buttering it up" and then taking back the raise based on his opponents reaction arguing that he never actually used the word RAISE and it would be hard for the floor to rule against him.
Watch the video and tell me what you think. The hand in question occurs about 4:15 into the clip.
YouTube- WSOPE 2009 Main Event Episode 4 Part 5/5 World Series of Poker Europe E4 ESPN 2010