Need Help on this hand plZ!!!

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squeakybummer

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so were at our regular home game playin a 1k min buy in wid 5/10 blinds (this is jamaican dollars) it folded around to me and im in late position n raise to 40 wid QJo the player in the small blind re raises me min to 80, i make the call since i hav position on him. The flop come Qs 7h 2s... he instantly pushes for all his money... he had me covered i had abt 1.6k. i took some time then i made the call ...he turned over AA...could i hav got away from the hand? and bare in mind tht earlier he bluffed me wen i had top pair so tht was playin in my mind
 
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eh... it would be hard to get away from it considering the stop and go he did...but he could have been thinking the earlier bluff was playing in your mind and that could be why he did it.
 
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Yeah, that would be tough to get away from....but then again, calling a pre-flop raise with Q,J off. is questionable.
 
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I like the raise PF with QJ in late posistion, I don't even mind calling his min raise since you are already invested in the pot. However, you need to be thinking about folding this hand on the flop unless you hit it a lot harder than you did. Him showing one bluff early on doesn't give me enough information to to warrant labeling him a bluffer. Several bluffs from him would however. Most players have the ability to throw out once bluff in their lifetime.

Facing a raise from the blind has to tell you that he has some serious strength, regardless of you hitting top pair, you need to fold this and find a better spot to get all of your chips in. Even against a random hand PF you are only a 60 40 fave.

Post flop, you are behind a number of hands. AA, KK, QQ, AQ, KQ, 77, 22. you can reasonably forget about the 22 since he'd be a complete agro monkey to raise in the blinds with 22 and 77 would probably only warrant a call from the blind rather than a 3bet, however the rest are all in his range and all likely considering his posistion and post flop shove.

As hard as it is to laydown Top pair with a fairly decent kicker, you need to be able to let hands like this go from time to time. Folding can be used as a weapon, learn how to use it and make him think that you will fold to any aggression and use that in a later hand when you are much stronger and trap him for all his chips.

If you are not folding hands like this, in spots like this, you are not playing the game right.

On a side note, leave out the results in the future so our answers and not bias.
 
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Pretty easy fold actually. He's pushing $1.6K into a pot of $170. TP3K is not enough to be making that call except against the spewiest of players.
 
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:party: I gues it is just down to that particular moment and the feeling you get from him. I mean he could have done the very same play with just 2 10s o something.... or maybe not!! gl next time
;) beware of :shark:
 
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I think with the pre-flop raise there I would have put him on k-q or a-q but i can understand your call if you had him pegged as a bluffer.
 
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Prob should have walked away QJ is not a hand you want to be playing top pair with. So many things that could have beat you at that point, esp with the fact that he re raised you pre flop.
 
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You have to fold on that flop.

You have top pair with a medium kicker. What can you beat that would make a bet like that. Instafold for that much.


Do you need more players for that game? I'm interested.
 
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"Don't go broke with one pair" (Phil Gordon ... and many others )

>could i hav got away from the hand?

Seriously, TP3k is not exactly a monster ;)

If you had less than the nut flush / straight / full house / set .. etc, then "could I get away", might be the question, but with this mediocre hand, I can't see how it warrants calling a shove.
 
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Pretty easy fold actually. He's pushing $1.6K into a pot of $170. TP3K is not enough to be making that call except against the spewiest of players.

^^^This. Early bluff show is a pretty common technique to get calls when they do have real hands. You were not getting the right pot odds and had only invested a very small portion of your stack. Fold it everytime.
 
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i reliazed i played the hand bad tho cause there was only a little money in the pot an thts n easy fold sigh i guess ill learn from this...if ur in jamaica u can join the game sure
 
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