re: Poker & Nationalities in poker and play styles
"templates are always useful, but are never a total coverage. They relate to reality as a skeleton for a living body. " As you put this in quotes I would be interested in who you were quoting.
Yeah, I heard this a while ago on a Dutch documentary and found it a good way of saying. But, I don't remember the name of the person in the docu, so I can't tell you that. But since I did not invent it exactly myself, I found it more neat/fair to put it in quotes.
I have a criticism of your observations, or rather your presentation of your observations. You seem to be only dealing in male characteristics. I'd find it hard to agree that italian woman are "macho" for example.
Criticism is what forums are for! You are really going for details, seemingly. I especially did not include the difference in genders here ... that would make the influence of nationalities even more complicated. That being said, of course there's al lot to say and think about when it comes to men vs. women playing. But that'll be for another Thread and day.
My Vote was that I don't bother looking. If someone is playing aggressively then I do sometimes check their details as displayed in the game. When I do this I tend to find some conforming to your observations in that it'll typically be a player from the former soviet block who is playing very aggressively with all-ins with cards I would have folded. But not always and that experience is not enough for me to say "all soviet players are..." That recklessness usually doesn't keep them in the game for long. It's just matter of waiting a while and not getting sucked into playing a hand you should have folded.
So your vote maybe wasn't completely right, since you do check sometimes. But I agree totally agree that one cannot say that all people from a nationality have the same playing styles. That's why I made the quote of the templates and said that the higher the quality level one is playing from (excellent players and pro's) the lesser the chance may be that the 'typical' characteristics of the nationality comes through. And yeah, it makes you a better player when you can create your own playing style with enough variation. True true true! But lots of members of CC and on the tables maybe aren't as good as they might think. I include myself here: I acknowledge I sometimes think I'm better than reality might be. But knowing that/being aware of that can help me to evolve to the next level. And one part of Poker that is being overseen by a big group of amateur players is psychology. And a part of psychology is the specific characteristics of an individual. And nationality characteristics is a part of that. Fjieuwwww ....
So ... that's why I posted this thread, with my questions. I don't want to state I know everything. Not at all! I just find it interesting to think about and let others think about it.
are you sure you are from Belgium? "...not that chatty, ..."??!! Could talk the hind-legs off a donkey, as they say round my way.
As far as I know. My parents didn't reveal to me that I'm adopted ... yet! But you are totally right. I'm not a typical Belgian in many ways! I'm very open, have a driven personality, chatty as hell and very passionate. I'm more like a mix of people from Holland and the Mediterranean.
But ... that being said: you might be interested in this links I found on the subject: http://www.bluffeurope.com/poker-new...Style_734.aspx
I'll post more on another moment ... still have alot to say until the hind-legs of your donkey fall off, but now my stomach is shouting for dinner.
(reminder for myself and something to think about for the others: could it be that typical games of a nationality have an influence on poker ... f.ex. Russians and chess)