multitabling is annoying

do u think multitbaling is almost impossible?

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vinylspiros

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i dont know how it is that people multitable.i never could get what it is that they do with 16 windows open beeping at the same time.its hard enough to play 1 table at a time and make the right decisions.
how in the world is it even possible to multitable and if it actually is then WHAT are the standard moves u make? like do u just shove any pair above 88? how do u act if there is a multiway pot and u have KQ suited and u hit top pair and u have a raise and a reraise before u and u have 11 new windows beeping?
seriously can anyone explain it to me? or am i just retarded?
the way i see it is that u have to be on some hardcore drugs to be able to follow all that action and be sucessful too :stupid: .
 
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more tables means your roi goes lower but your winnings per session go up because your hand output.. if you can sustain, and play poker like that than kudos to you.. however i really need to focus on the game, so usually its one table for me.. 2 max, anytime past that is pushing it for me lol
 
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this is one of those things you either can do or you have to train your self to do, and some people just cant.my limit is 4 tables. one thing it helps with is you dont play hands you shouldnt mainly because you dont have time to play that 34 suited when you have 2 other tables calling for your attention.
 
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It's like mastering a new video game. You start off a mess and then start to get a hold of it.
If you think you can get through the levels without dying the first few times, you are nuts. If you think you can jump from one table to 8, or 12, or 16 you will find out you need more practice on the beginner levels before you go to pro level.
 
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For me one table seems pretty slow. How often do you see someone type "zzzzzzzzzzz" when someone is playing slow. You know they are getting bored and not playing their best. I don't even notice because I'm at several tables.
 
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For me one table seems pretty slow. How often do you see someone type "zzzzzzzzzzz" when someone is playing slow. You know they are getting bored and not playing their best. I don't even notice because I'm at several tables.

err... umm... some of us play slow 'cuz we're trying to figure out what to do.... not bored, really.:eek:

DOH! Did you mean the guy typing "zzzzzzzzzz" is bored! Geesh, see I really am slow.
 
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i feel comfy with two tables myself, it gives me a good flow back and forth. need to be stimulated at all times.
 
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I personally think it's annoying with only 1 table open. Unless I'm doing like 3 or 4 things at once while playing.

I 90% of the time have more than 1 table open. It's more fun to me.
 
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Alot of players who play multiple tables are grinding out Rake Back or other VIP programs. Some are good enough they can still maintain a solid win rate. But most of the time they are right around breakeven.

The SNG guys can play loads of tables because the decisions are much easier and fewer of the to make. If you employ a solid SNG strategy you wont be playing many hands at the beggining. you also make very few decisons post flp in SNGs as opposed to cash.

When I played SNGs I would play at least 10 at a time. Ive been playing nothing but cash for the past 2 years and can handle about 6 or 7. I try to stay at around 5 or so, but thats my threshhold.

some people can just make decisions faster than others. I prefer playing against those with lots of tables going as they tend to play pretty str8forward.

A good trick to train yourself to play more tables as I highly recommend playing as many as you can to win more money is to add in 1 at a time during your sessions. If you play 1 now, add 1 more in until you get comfortable wiht that. Then add another and so on. IT works pretty well and before you know it your 16 tabling with the rest of the sickos
 
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*shrugs*

It's all just practice - practice at making decisions quickly, at doing whatever math you need to do, at assessing a situation and the players you're up against... as you get more practice, you're able to do all those things faster, on more tables at a time.

And keep in mind that even for a loose player, unless they exclusively play heads up then they're probably folding at least two thirds of their hands preflop. So while they may have 16 tables open, on 10-11 of them at any given time they're either not playing a hand or they've got a very easy preflop fold decision to make.
 
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thanks guys for all the posts. i wanted to ask another question: whats the story with Bank roll Management when multitabling? assuming u play 10 tables and u have 25 buy ins for example.. do u just take 10 out of the 25 buy ins and start grinding? it seems to me that BRM changes when multitabling cause of variance and it looks like u have to have a much BIGGER bankroll to practice multitabling? am i right?
 
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I started out playing single STT's, built it to 2, then 4. That took around 6 months to get confident enough in my decisions.

Now I can play 9 tables pretty much optimally, i play 12 when the games are good, and have played 18 in the past as a pretty epic experience in spew.

BRM if done correctly should not effect the number of tables you play either. Think about playing a million hands on a single table, the variance should be exactly the same if you played the same million hands but over 2 tables, then increase up that thought process. FYI 25 buyins is never enough.
 
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I started out playing single STT's, built it to 2, then 4. That took around 6 months to get confident enough in my decisions.

Now I can play 9 tables pretty much optimally, i play 12 when the games are good, and have played 18 in the past as a pretty epic experience in spew.

BRM if done correctly should not effect the number of tables you play either. Think about playing a million hands on a single table, the variance should be exactly the same if you played the same million hands but over 2 tables, then increase up that thought process. FYI 25 buyins is never enough.
thnks for ur posts man,so helpful and to the point. what do u think is a good BRM to feel confident? 50-100 buy ins?
 
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Yea anywhere around that is good. Remember that a -20BI swing should be common enough for even a winning player.
 
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I try to play one table at a time. Because, number one; I get a better read on the generator, number two; I have respect for other players at the table. What I mean by that is, by being there playing I'm not wasting their time or my time. If you play more than one table people at the other table are always waiting on you, and that gets annoying. Not even considering the blinds keep moving up while everybody's waiting on you.
 
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Multitabling is by no means impossible I can successfully play 2/3 tables at a time and still win a lot of sessions however I think the key really is knowing your game inside out and have experience of playing thousands if not millions of hands online. My advice would be to master one table and gradually introduce more. Going from one table to sixteen simply won't work.
 
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Like others say, it's just practice. When I started I couldn't comprehend it either. Now I can't really tolerate a session unless I have 4-6 tables going at the very least. I can easily play 8 and still make good decisions based on opponents play. In my cash days I played 12-16 tables but that was mostly bot-style play without much thought, with a lot my profit coming from rakeback and bonuses.

For most people a HUD is an absolute must after more than a few tables.

As to losing swings, my biggest was ~35BI's at 50NL, and that was when I was 12 tabling every day. I took a break after that and came back playing mostly low volume SNGs, since I don't have the time to grind that I used to.
 
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I can’t really play more than 4 at a time but even then I tend to get a little nuts.
I really enjoy one table, live or online, and really trying to play it well.

Just my 2¢

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Like others say, it's just practice. When I started I couldn't comprehend it either. Now I can't really tolerate a session unless I have 4-6 tables going at the very least. I can easily play 8 and still make good decisions based on opponents play. In my cash days I played 12-16 tables but that was mostly bot-style play without much thought, with a lot my profit coming from rakeback and bonuses.


As to losing swings, my biggest was ~35BI's at 50NL, and that was when I was 12 tabling every day. I took a break after that and came back playing mostly low volume SNGs, since I don't have the time to grind that I used to.
like what kind of sit and goes? 1 table or multitable?
 
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in general i play alot of zoom,i can open up to two tables and do well.the second i open the third one,its over i start to panick. i dont know if its just me but anytime i see ,for example the 10NL initial deposit on one of the 3 tables drop to 7 and the other two are up to twelve after 50-60 hands for example the fact that im up on 2 tables and down on one makes me tilt cause i want to be going up on all tables. is it a good idea to have the auto rebuy thingy working to avoid this?
 
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in general i play alot of zoom,i can open up to two tables and do well.the second i open the third one,its over i start to panick. i dont know if its just me but anytime i see ,for example the 10NL initial deposit on one of the 3 tables drop to 7 and the other two are up to twelve after 50-60 hands for example the fact that im up on 2 tables and down on one makes me tilt cause i want to be going up on all tables. is it a good idea to have the auto rebuy thingy working to avoid this?

Its alwasy best to have auto-rebuy on.
 
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I think it depends on what you are playing. I could go as high as 12 tables playing hyper turbo sit and goes on full tilt. Since you started with 10 big blinds, your only decision was pretty much fold or shove all in. I was pretty much a break even player but I was making quite a bit of money on rakeback. With normal sit and goes, four is pretty much my limit and I will only go as high as two with cash games or multi-table tourneys. As far as bankroll management goes, I have always played at stakes lower than what I am rolled for while multi-tabling.
 
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I think after awhile, your ROI goes down if you multi-table a lot and you drop down to a single table because you tend to get board and play too many hands.
 
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QUESTION: why play 8 tables of 10NL when u can just open 1 of 100NL and play the best game you can play? this is smthng im curious to hear an answer to.
 
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like what kind of sit and goes? 1 table or multitable?
Both. But mostly STTs.

QUESTION: why play 8 tables of 10NL when u can just open 1 of 100NL and play the best game you can play? this is smthng im curious to hear an answer to.
For a number of reasons. First, you have to be a winning player at 100NL or your just spewing money. Second being BRM. If you're rolled (and skilled enough) to play 100NL then you should be playing 100NL no matter how many tables you play. Bankroll doesn't change with number of tables played.

Profit from multi-tabling comes from volume, which is also why RB and bonuses become so much more lucrative. If you're a winning player, your bb/100 will drop somewhat but your hourly rate will increase in proportion to the number of tables you're playing. Here's a simplistic example: let's say you can play 100 hands per hour per table. If you earn 10bb/100 playing one table, that's 10bb/hour. Even if your bb/100 winrate drops by half to 5bb/100 when playing 4 tables, now you're making 20bb/hour. Even if you dropped to 2.5bb/100 and earned the same 10bb/hour, you'd be earning rakeback/bonuses at 4x the rate, so you're still ahead.

The key is you have to be winning as you add tables. Once you hit a point where you can't sustain a positive winrate (especially without RB) then your losses will grow dramatically faster than when single tabling.
 
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