Most Overrated/Underrated Poker Players

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I have my thoughts on what a good poker and bad poker player is but I notice that some of the most marketed players that are popular really are not that great, I think the most overrated player Is Victor Blom simply because his style is flawed for the reason that he goes up 3 million one week and then is down 3 million the next, I don't see the point of this and not valuing money? For underrated I think you could name so much but mainly its those unknown players who do not let themselves known to the public while showing the best results
 
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Well that's kinda odd because the poker community thinks otherwise (I believe there was a list on 2p2 last month of who the community thought ranked in top10). It's also weird because many of the top pros also think differently... believing that Isildur is a formidable opponent.

I can't recall any player who brought about as much excitement in recent years as the famed Isildur did when he made his appearance on Fulltilt. Taking on the top players at the highest stakes in whatever game 'they' chose & crushing them.

How could a player not be considered great when they're sitting down playing HU at the highest online stakes, & taking on the world's best? And not only taking them on... but taking on more than one of them at a time. It's a feat I'm sure we won't see repeated in a very long time (if ever). I forget exactly what the comparison was they made recently on Pokercast... but it was something like, "not only would it be like some unknown fighter taking on someone like George St.Pierre... but it'd be like someone taking on G.S.P., and then right after that jumping in the ring with Spider Silva, then Sonnen, then Chuck Lidell, then .... & knocking them all out. It was nothing less than amazing!
.... but 'you' figure he's over-rated?:confused:
 
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Not sure, but, if my esteemed teammate Sarah says it's me, I'm gonna be pissed.
 
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Well that's kinda odd because the poker community thinks otherwise (I believe there was a list on 2p2 last month of who the community thought ranked in top10). It's also weird because many of the top pros also think differently... believing that Isildur is a formidable opponent.

I can't recall any player who brought about as much excitement in recent years as the famed Isildur did when he made his appearance on Fulltilt. Taking on the top players at the highest stakes in whatever game 'they' chose & crushing them.

How could a player not be considered great when they're sitting down playing HU at the highest online stakes, & taking on the world's best? And not only taking them on... but taking on more than one of them at a time. It's a feat I'm sure we won't see repeated in a very long time (if ever). I forget exactly what the comparison was they made recently on Pokercast... but it was something like, "not only would it be like some unknown fighter taking on someone like George St.Pierre... but it'd be like someone taking on G.S.P., and then right after that jumping in the ring with Spider Silva, then Sonnen, then Chuck Lidell, then .... & knocking them all out. It was nothing less than amazing!
.... but 'you' figure he's over-rated?:confused:

you bring out a decent point, but look at his results though, hes up hes down hes up hes down, really hes not that much of a long term winner, sure he can hang with the best of them which i give props to its super cool, but he is no Dan Cates or Jungleman12 as hes called who is crushing long term without 2-3 million dollar swings, but your right in a way he is a great player, but not im my eyes, im glad to hear your opinion though your just looking at it differently than me
 
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Understand what u mean and some others are less on the light ( i mean for the usual public) and seems better . sure but each sport need sone unsual players , charismatic players ,and he is .

futhermore dont forget that he didn't play a lot of live turns and won a high roller with all the bests players on the turn.

and for finish negreanu who is very very good player ( top 5 for me) , made a lot of compliments about Blom and i don't think he lied .
 
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Bertrand 'Elky' Grospellier
I watch some starcraft pros

Lim Yo-Hwan ("BoxeR" is a legend for south korea) vs Bertrand 'Elky' Grospellier
2001 for WCG (Boxer beat ElkY) so ElkY 2nd Place.
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overated

The big difference between boxing and poker is huge.Cards is a big part of your sucess or failure where a boxer that has ability takes luck out of the equation to get the WIN!:marchmell
 
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I have my thoughts on what a good poker and bad poker player is but I notice that some of the most marketed players that are popular really are not that great, I think the most overrated player Is Victor Blom simply because his style is flawed for the reason that he goes up 3 million one week and then is down 3 million the next, I don't see the point of this and not valuing money? For underrated I think you could name so much but mainly its those unknown players who do not let themselves known to the public while showing the best results

Victor wins by playing NLHM and loses by playing PLO.

He is a great NLHM player, and hopefully will be as great in PLO
 
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all my favorite players have the respect they deserve....I cant think of underrated player at moment....there are a few out there...
 
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it is hard to rate blom I think. You must give him credit for what he has accomplished in making mass amounts of money. He did lose millions of dollars as well you can call it cheating when townsend and the other guys collected information on him. Not sure what is even happening with that. But I think blom is just a aggressive player. Very hard to play against, I bet lots of people are intimidated by his style.
 
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I, Phil Hellmuth am the greatest ever!
 
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I have my thoughts on what a good poker and bad poker player is but I notice that some of the most marketed players that are popular really are not that great, I think the most overrated player Is Victor Blom simply because his style is flawed for the reason that he goes up 3 million one week and then is down 3 million the next, I don't see the point of this and not valuing money? For underrated I think you could name so much but mainly its those unknown players who do not let themselves known to the public while showing the best results

The most UNDERRATED player is this guy , cottonseed1 with an earnings of $3,556,082 . He is one of the highest winning players this year .
He is from RUSSIA , He plays with screenname cottonseed1 on full tilt poker .
And identity is UNKNOWN :) He won over a Million over Gus hansen .
So thats incredible :)
 
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The most UNDERRATED player is this guy , cottonseed1 with an earnings of $3,556,082 . He is one of the highest winning players this year .
He is from RUSSIA , He plays with screenname cottonseed1 on Full tilt poker .
And identity is UNKNOWN :) He won over a Million over Gus hansen .
So thats incredible :)


This cottonseed guy is from canada , little correction . Real name is Kyle Hendon .
 
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This cottonseed guy is from Canada , little correction . Real name is Kyle Hendon .

Wouldn't say cottonseed is underrated, he's recognized as one of the best in the world. If you want to look for underrrated guys, check 200-1000NL...there are lots of grinders who use those tables to make their daily bacon and clean up, but never really move up because they don't want the crazy swings. Nanonoko used to be a good example, but he's been known to play some high stakes now. Guys like leatherass who started the trend are pretty famous, but you pretty much have to play as much as a reg to get to know the great regs. On the overrated side, obviously there are lots of old live pros who just haven't been able to cut it. Gus Hansen keeps getting called out. And I've heard that Tom Dwan is now considered less-than-elite...that's just how fast poker evolves.
 
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I, Phil Hellmuth am the greatest ever!

I'm a fan of the poker brat and I realize that most of his act is for his brand.

One thing which people don't realize about Hellmuth is he is a true table captain, even when he's just folding. He takes control of the dynamics of a table. Let me give an example based on my observations.

2008, about 80 people left in a $1,500 wsop event and Hellmuth gets moved to my immediate left. Even though I had played with names before, this was pretty exciting. From the hand he arrived, Phil basically started supervising the dealer. If an all-in situation occurred, Phil confirmed the chip counts (mind you he wasn't involved in these hands). He also directed the dealer to pull chips into the pot if any sort of re-raise occurred in a hand. Basically he assumed a title role at the table, taking power where power normally wouldn't exist in the hands of a player. It was fascinating to watch and showed another facet of the game which I had not considered, one seemingly non-tangible.
 
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And one of my favorite "under-the-radar" players is Huck Seed. Pros respect the hell out of him, but he's not really a household name
 
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I'm a fan of the poker brat and I realize that most of his act is for his brand.

One thing which people don't realize about Hellmuth is he is a true table captain, even when he's just folding. He takes control of the dynamics of a table. Let me give an example based on my observations.

2008, about 80 people left in a $1,500 WSOP event and Hellmuth gets moved to my immediate left. Even though I had played with names before, this was pretty exciting. From the hand he arrived, Phil basically started supervising the dealer. If an all-in situation occurred, Phil confirmed the chip counts (mind you he wasn't involved in these hands). He also directed the dealer to pull chips into the pot if any sort of re-raise occurred in a hand. Basically he assumed a title role at the table, taking power where power normally wouldn't exist in the hands of a player. It was fascinating to watch and showed another facet of the game which I had not considered, one seemingly non-tangible.[/

I like Hellmuth, i find it hillarious when he gets crushed in the cash games :) his antics are so funny, tony g seems to be the one guy who crushes him the most, tony g though i feel makes most of his money in other business ventures since he owns betting sportsbooks, stores, resort, and pokernews so he basically freerolls in poker since a while now, phil hellmuth to me is a true poker player
 
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I think hellmuth has gone from one of the most over-rated players a few years ago to being under-rated now. For a long time he couldn't keep up with the change in style but I think he's accepted that he had to evolve and has done so! Phil Ivey is the most overrated in terms of NLHE!!
 
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This guy seems to do well at the tables but with his attitude you can't help but cheer when he loses: Rob Salaburu.
 
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And one of my favorite "under-the-radar" players is Huck Seed. Pros respect the hell out of him, but he's not really a household name

huck seed is a great player but I'm not quite sure if he is really under the radar as he has won and final tabled more then a few major events in his career as well as appeared on a lot of the widely recognized poker shows.
 
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Joseph Cheong is one of my favourite players. His emotional control is as good as I've seen. For example the hand in the 2010 when his aces got cracked by backdoor straight cards he just accepted it and kept going

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I think Phil Galfond is highly underrated, simply because I feel in terms of high stakes cash games AND tournaments he is the best player overall. Not either individually, but as a whole, I would struggle to find a more consistent earner.
 
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Underrated is the grinder Mike Misraki hope I spelled that right.Overrated not sure I have the right to diss someone elses game especially when they have made mega cash........scorp
 
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I will say one of the most overrated is Tom Dwan....I am guessing his name will disappear from the limelight soon enough
 
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