Mindset or Strategy?

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What do you value more, obviously both are important but on a comparable basis do you think a mentally stronger player will beat an advanced strategic player. over a long term period based on profit.

Lets say player A is mentally a winning mentality, calm, focused, driven, patient has a basic knowledge of poker, odds, equity hand range, exploiting.

Player B is an absoloute whizz knows the ins and outs of poker extremely skillful. but his temperament and discipline at time let him down. And although this guy has the ability to destroy the lower stakes again and again. He always seems to lose his head after a bad run of variance, although having SO MUCH potential, he/she lacks that focus to really push forward and stay on top once hes there.

Long term Who do you think will make the most profit.
Does player A adventually become good enough for high stakes or is he too limited to ever out profit player B
 
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you need both to succeed in poker, because if your poker skills isnt that good, assuming you are a calm and patient person you are going to be a losing player, in the long run, and if you are a very good player but dont have the patient, and went tilted after a bad beat, you will make lots of mistakes, like playing in higher stakes you could afford, or making wrong decisions that will inevitably end up losing all the money.
 
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Hm... I think I know where you are headed with this.

Given just those two examples above, I would choose the winning mindset over the less confident almost "expects to go down" mentality of Player B.

You can study as much as anyone ever has and still lose your mind to bad variance.

Generally speaking though, I think "he who has the best plans, wins the most hands." Without reading your scenarios for Player A/B... I would've said strategy.

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mentally weak as you say it`s a real issue when playing poker, we should train our mind to be strong before be released and start gambling big money,
i think is not easy to reach a grade where you can control all your emotions whatever happen but at least be enough to take a rest when you think the emotions don`t let you play your best poker, because in order to success you must play your best poker everytime,

i see a lot of people beginners in poker focus a lot in odds and chances ranges, and so on, but they need to learn to handle their minds too otherwise are going to play as beginners forever
 
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I agree I think Mentality is even more so in poker important than say a physical sport like Football, or Athletics. Since alot of the time raw ability can get you far enough if you train consistantly.

With poker if we have the kind of mentality where we crumble in live games or cant handle losing we have to make so many important decisions which might only be marginal losses/wins,
and in my oppinion this can effect our profits drastically

Like just that one tiny decision in a hand against a great player can result into us losing that hand if they exploit us or were not thinking long enough to notice something important end up trapped
 
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Easier to advance as a player when starting from a stable mind I believe. Having all the knowledge and not applying it properly does not help you win. If we accept the premise that both are needed, mindset and knowledge, my opinion is that it is a lot easier to add knowledge to a game than it is to change one's personality.
 
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On short term I would say Player B.

But for a poker "career", definitely player A.

All the familiar symptoms of a slow but steady grinder who's only gonna get better with time.
 
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