Looser play live vs. online?

luizmarinho

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Hello guys

I've got some good results on online poker, I've playing for a couple of years but I never played live poker.
I was wondering because on live games the dealer have to shuffle cards, count bets, etc, the online games are faster at that point, so you will play more hands per hour playing online than live even if you play only one table at once.
My question is, does that influence on starting hands ? I mean if you play 50+ hands per hour online and 25 (or less idk) live the players tends to enter with weaker hands ?
sounds like a donkey doubt but I swear thats makes me consider lol
 
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No No No I play alot of both, it is a bit of a transition at first from online to playing live, yep you play alot more hands online,you got that part right,but poker is poker, online or live,it's just taking what you've learned playing online to the table, or vice a versa if you first started playing live, at first it will feel like a snails pace that's the transition part you just have to get used to the pace the part that is hard to understand is the whole game is slower so the outcome is the same just at a slower pace,but yep you wont get as many hands an hour or chances that's about the only difference ,but in both games the point is to build up your stack an try to make make everyone elses stack shorter .
 
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No No No I play alot of both, it is a bit of a transition at first from online to playing live, yep you play alot more hands online,you got that part right,but poker is poker, online or live,it's just taking what you've learned playing online to the table, or vice a versa if you first started playing live, at first it will feel like a snails pace that's the transition part you just have to get used to the pace the part that is hard to understand is the whole game is slower so the outcome is the same just at a slower pace,but yep you wont get as many hands an hour or chances that's about the only difference ,but in both games the point is to build up your stack an try to make make everyone elses stack shorter .

oh nice!
I'm having good results on online poker, the past week was the best of my poker life, I went to some final tables and fall on ITM today of Sunday Storm. Slowly I'm improving my game and the more I play more I see that really is not only a lucky game
Anyway this week I'm trying to catch some buddies to play live just for fun, lets see how it goes! :)
 
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oh nice!
I'm having good results on online poker, the past week was the best of my poker life, I went to some final tables and fall on ITM today of Sunday Storm. Slowly I'm improving my game and the more I play more I see that really is not only a lucky game
Anyway this week I'm trying to catch some buddies to play live just for fun, lets see how it goes! :)

When you play with byddis it is rly funny,interesting.Because its your firends and you feel relax with them

But when you go somehere on live torunament,it is another story.
 
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No No No I play alot of both, it is a bit of a transition at first from online to playing live, yep you play alot more hands online,you got that part right,but poker is poker, online or live,it's just taking what you've learned playing online to the table, or vice a versa if you first started playing live, at first it will feel like a snails pace that's the transition part you just have to get used to the pace the part that is hard to understand is the whole game is slower so the outcome is the same just at a slower pace,but yep you wont get as many hands an hour or chances that's about the only difference ,but in both games the point is to build up your stack an try to make make everyone elses stack shorter .

Mostly true. Gotta add and correct some stuff though.

First of all, most players are indeed more loose live. They are not tighter. At least that has been my experience. Totally depends on the player, of course, but on average I find the live player to be a bit looser and more on a mood to gamble. Playing live has this whole new environment to it. You're surrounded by people right next to you, everyone is friendly, the game is fun. I've seen people call huge amounts of money with J2o, K4, 36s, etc, pre-flop.

Second of all, live, the dealer does have to shuffle the cards and deal them, and he also has the job of counting bets and out rule plays. For example, you as a player kinda have the job of knowing how much you bet. But you can just take a huge amount of chips and put it in the middle of the table and it's the dealer's job to count them and announce to the table how much you bet. Never played in big tournaments but that has been my experience.
Of course, if you're just playing with friends, then things aren't done with such professionalism. Often you can just say "I bet $1" and everyone will take your word for it and not even count the chips-

I do agree with Max's point that you need to take what you learn online and apply it live, but playing live there is a shortcut to all of that. People can succeed live without knowing anything about strategy. Playing live is much more about reading people. If you know what they have, you don't even need to know what you have. If you can see in their faces that they are bluffing and you are pretty good at it and you're not letting yourself get tricked, then who cares about bet sizing, semi-bluffing, pot odds, and all that boring stuff? You go all-in.
Professional players also have a lot of tools to make players tilt and to manipulate their emotions, although this is frowned upon and doesn't work with the real pros. But there are ways amateurs can get tricked into getting angry or being proud of themselves, just so that they can get destroyed.

Live poker is a psychological game more than a mathematical one. It plays very much on your favor to have theoretical knowledge, but against live amateurs most of it is useless.

Keep in mind though that there are people out there who sit down on amateur tables just waiting for someone to come in who thinks he is pretty good at reading emotions and then they do all sorts of things to mess with his mind. Both live and online, just play your best game. Live you have some other tools to help you with that (reading body language) but don't get carried away and don't start thinking you are the best player on either fields.
Just do your best and you'll do fine.
 
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I believe there is a different mindset when playing live to online. Yes online is a lot looser than live when you can multi table and a lot of not so good players that have a really wide range of play knowing they can just hop onto another MTT rather than playing live when there may be just couple of MTT running that day!
 
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Depends where you're playing and what the standard of players is like - but generally speaking, if you're playing in low-stakes live cash games or tournaments then yes, you'll probably find that the game seems a lot looser.

The pace of the game being much slower is definitely a big factor in that. Folding 10 hands in a row online might not be a big deal, but live that could mean you haven't played a hand in half an hour - people get bored, and bad players in particular will start to open up their hand selection and play some worse hands just so they've got something to do.
 
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