Limit Holdem?

Anybody ever play it? I have an EXTREMELY small br right now so i'm stuck here for the time being. But i've never really played this before. Whats some strategy here? Lots people holding on to an Ace it looks like hoping they hit it. Just trying to minimize my risk and get some more start up money going here since my latest downfall.

Not a big fan of limit, obviously theres lots of chasing because pot odds are usually right. But this can sometimes lead to easy bought pots on the river.

swings can be more brutal than nl. at micros, you can grind up a bankroll however, playing ABC poker. If you can avoid tilt, play profitable hands in POSITION, and punish weaker players then limit can be profitable. I personally limit is a better game than most people give it credit for.

Yea I mean I just saw 2 people hit quads with aces and then another time with Q's. Thank god I wasn't in those hands. Also noticing position is still huge just like you said...everyone wants to limp in but once I raise then you really see who probably has a good preflop hand. Thanks for the reply Bolt!

I think you would be better off playing no limit at small stakes, than limit.
Too many ppl treat limit like a drawing game imo, however I have never looked into limit strategies, there might be some, but I don't know of them and get tilted everytime I play limit.

I think you would be better off playing no limit at small stakes, than limit.

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Oh man I cringe every time I see words like this spoken....sounds like advice from a NL player

Choose the game that you feel best at. I'd MUCH rather play limit poker, but then my game lends itself to weak tight so I tend to get pushed off pots by aggro NL players at the NL table.

However, for me, the math is easier to calculate at limit. Implied odds don't play as much as a factor as straight pot odds, so I guess I don't care to think as much at the table. Yet, you have to learn to punish the chasers and preserve your profits.

But no matter what, find the game that lends itself to your style the best and play that.

Cheers

Vollycat said:

Oh man I cringe every time I see words like this spoken....sounds like advice from a NL player

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Lol, it was. I will say I honestly only play limit when I am forced to in an 8 game or horse, but I really suck at it and it tilts me beyond belief.

I've actually had more success with the .05/.10 tables than the lower ones which is probably due to looking to bluff people out or getting beat by somebody who doesn't really care to lose their $.78 stack lol.

I didn't have enough money to even buy the minimum buy in for the lowest NL stakes but I did for the lowest limit so I gave it a shot. Started with $.80 and now have almost $2 from just playing for about an hr which I guess is good when the bets and calls are only $.04. It's kind of funny I am even talking about playing for pennies but I guess when you ruin your br there's always a first step you have to take (at least until I could buy into the NL games )

You have a great attitude Dom and you are going about rebuilding the right way.
Good luck!

PooffyFooffy said:

I think you would be better off playing no limit at small stakes, than limit.
Too many ppl treat limit like a drawing game imo, however I have never looked into limit strategies, there might be some, but I don't know of them and get tilted everytime I play limit.

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That's because you get the odds to call your draws so theres little wonder why

I don't really like Limit, it's very tilty, you can raise with your aces all day preflop and get a bunch of calls. Someone hits bottom pair will carry on till the river to try hit 2 pair and so on, becomes very draining, very fast.

Read Skalansky's "Small Stakes Holdem" or Lee Jones' "Winning low limit holdem." (I think those are the correct titles) Are you playing live or online? Rakes are difficult to overcome w/ low stakes. When I play 3/6 at my local casino, I play beyond tight, then use my experience when I enter a pot. Poker is, of course, situational so my advice is to start playing, analyze your sessions and adjust. Have fun!

Whippy said:

Read Skalansky's "Small Stakes Holdem" or Lee Jones' "Winning low limit holdem." (I think those are the correct titles) Are you playing live or online? Rakes are difficult to overcome w/ low stakes. When I play 3/6 at my local casino, I play beyond tight, then use my experience when I enter a pot. Poker is, of course, situational so my advice is to start playing, analyze your sessions and adjust. Have fun!

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+1 on the Sklansky book. Ed Miller co authored it and his contributions make it a classic IMO. I played limit for the first few months of my online poker adventure and "Small Stakes Hold'em Winning Big with Expert Play" was a godsend.

Good luck.

Thank you, I'll have to check that out. I'm liking limit so far.

I really don't mind limit, when I am in a patient mood. It is a slow grind, and you have to be willing to fold your good hands when they aren't hitting. It is a great way to grind and gain whatever player points are available at the table you are playing though!

it really just puts more emphasis on your starting cards

Winning Low Limit Hold'em by Lee Jones is also a classic and must-read.

Limit = Poo Flingers!!

LarkMarlow said:

Winning Low Limit Hold'em by Lee Jones is also a classic and must-read.

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Well, to be honest, its not that good for online games. It was written to teach a style of how to beat the "no fold em" hold em games typically seen in low limit Califorinia cardroom live games. While it does have a lot of good basic info, if you try to appoly it too literally to the online games, it woon't end well.

Don't get me wrong, its not a bad book but I would definitely chose The Sklansky/Miller book over it. Also, the Limit hold em section in Super System 2 written by Jennifer Harmon is excellent.

Useless on the long term.
Limiting yourself won't get you anywhere.

there is a limit to how much you win in the hand and pots can get so big on the river
thats mean every body can draw cheap on u and poeple most of the time see thr river becouse you can rasie as much as the limit
if you stuck in lomit holdem it is very hard to rally back as you you have to play more hands than hands you played in order to just get even

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Well, to be honest, its not that good for online games. It was written to teach a style of how to beat the "no fold em" hold em games typically seen in low limit Califorinia cardroom live games. While it does have a lot of good basic info, if you try to appoly it too literally to the online games, it woon't end well.

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You're right! I rarely play limit NLHE online, but the game is my cash cow when playing live, so that's what I was thinking about.

alaskabill said:

Don't get me wrong, its not a bad book but I would definitely chose The Sklansky/Miller book over it. Also, the Limit hold em section in Super System 2 written by Jennifer Harmon is excellent.

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+1. Jennifer is considered by many to be the best limit player in the world.

i'd have to say that limit will help you understand the math quicker, and learn togive up starting hands as well. i could be biased since i started with limit but I really think it teaches you the fundamentals and really any game at the micro levels is going to have someone trying to donk the river so at least limit can keep you from losing your whole stack to one suckout on the river. have you tried cap games dom? another good way to minimize loss though as previously stated at the micros the cap will be on by the turn or not at all.

I don't think the size of your bankroll matters. You can lose a lot of money playing limit just as you can playing no-limit.

More importantly, which game to you prefer or have an aptitude for? Play that. Personally, I hate limit. There's no way to chase people out of a hand. It's like you have to make a hand every single time. As others have mentioned, there's a lot of chasing going on. And no way to make anyone "pay" for it so they've almost always got pot odds.

I play Limit on occasion but what it comes down to is the hands you play. I think if you play ABC poker Limit is a great place to park and grind.

With NL each decision you make could be your last which can mean more profit or more loss depending on how good of a player you are and how good decisions you can make.

If you are a solid player and want to min your loss play limit. Just play ABC poker dont get fancy, dont try to bluff pre, flop, or turn. Bet and raise for value. PLAY IN POSITION!

because of the nature of the game I think limit is a little easier and overall makes more sense. NL is crazy and unpredictable at times.

The best though is weak NL tables that combine the best of both worlds.... NL tables that the beggining betting culture is like limit (by this I mean lazy/volentary sychronized betting/raising by villans on early streets: example most villans bet in intervals of 2x or 3x BB till turn or river no matter pot size) are very profitable because you get pot odds on draws and make villans pay on river when hit and when villans hit their draws you fold willing to let the 2nd best hand go. For me this is the perfect table to play!

I think that fixed limit develops your postflop game since you don't have to push or call a push preflop. The pots at the low levels are always big so it does not serve you to bluff too much. Know your pot odds and count your outs correctly and raise when you have them and fold when you don't. Your wins are not big every session but neither are your losses.