Originally Posted by OzExorcist
Interesting points and they're certainly valid. I'd
Online you're playing against poker players. At a live casino, you're often playing against gamblers.
LMAO....what??? First off, let's get something straight, REAL poker is played live, with a dealer and a deck of cards. I know that may hard for some of you to believe, but poker IS A CARD GAME. Nothing against internet players, but I feel the complete opposite of what you said is true. Online, you're playing a very sophisticated computer/math game, live you are playing poker.
Now, are there gamblers at a casinos? Of course there are but even the craziest gambler at a casino is rarely as bad as some of the insane donks you have at the micros. (I'm talking about the U.S., I'm not sure about Australia
It varies from casino to casino but in the two major cities in the U.S. - Vegas & AC, the level of play is better than .01/.02, much better, trust me. An average full ring table is closest to 25 NL online and some maybe harder than 200 NL online, it all depends on the casino, location, time of day/week, etc.
Now you say that casino poker is wild b/c you will find 10x bb raises pre-flop. Well, if you find yourself on one of those tables, beware, it could be the classic, live pro hustle. What many pros will do is when 2 or 3 know each other, they'll sit down at a 1/2 table and turn it into a 2/5. Happens all the time.
They sit down at a 1/2, start playing normally, within 20 or 30 minutes though, you'll see them start to increase the pre-flop raise amount gradually until it averages around $12-$15 (essentially a 2/5)...and all the fish at the table don't even know what is happening. Next thing you know, everyone at the table is raising $12 - $15.
Now they do this for 2 primary reasons, the first is because there is always fresh meat at a 1/2 table, pros don't like playing against other pros - why would they? So they're going to search out the easiest competition.
The second is why pay 2/5 blinds, plus additional rake if you can get the same amount of action at a 1/2??
So next time, don't be so quick to assume when you're at a 1/2 table that is rasing 12 bb pre-flop it's b/c you're surrounded by fish, which may be true.. take a closer look and you may find a few sharks in the mix.