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yoru72
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You are completly right, but there are luck and luck. If you crack As with Ks, hiting the board, you were lucky, but playing a strong hand.
What TexasPokerStar is trying to say and I agree is that Jerry Yang won his bracelet doing really bad moves and rewarded with lucky boards.
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ph_il
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Why is everyone still all over Yang? Get over it, already. He won the ME last year by playing his game and getting lucky a few times. Was he an expert player? No, but so what?...He played his game, did his best and ran well. It happens and good for him for coming out on top. I don't see why people are still making a big deal out of it. Show me a good, known player that hasn't made a questionable call or shove and hasn't gotten lucky in a big tournament.
The only reason why we can say they were bad moves is because we saw their hole cards and we can automatically judge what is wrong and what is right. But we have no idea what happened those past few days of play. There could be perfectly logical reasons for the plays that Yang made based on previous hands with the same opponent...we don't know. All we know is we see the hole cards and we we judge what is the 'correct' play based on what we see and not how the opponents have been playing. You can't tell me you've never made a move based on an opponent you thought was weak, got caught against a bigger ahnd, and then got lucky. If you did, then I guess you're just as bad as Yang, right? Its the same thing.
...Let it go, plz.
The only reason why we can say they were bad moves is because we saw their hole cards and we can automatically judge what is wrong and what is right. But we have no idea what happened those past few days of play. There could be perfectly logical reasons for the plays that Yang made based on previous hands with the same opponent...we don't know. All we know is we see the hole cards and we we judge what is the 'correct' play based on what we see and not how the opponents have been playing. You can't tell me you've never made a move based on an opponent you thought was weak, got caught against a bigger ahnd, and then got lucky. If you did, then I guess you're just as bad as Yang, right? Its the same thing.
...Let it go, plz.
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zuberman
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Completely agree with philthy. We dont know what happened in the previous hands. Maybe his opponents were the kind those can be intimidated easily. Or maybe that play was played early and worked well. BUt I think the biggest donkey who has bracelet is jamie gold.
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yoru72
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Both have a point there about we don't know nothing about the previous hands. But even against a maniac, some calls where really questionables.
In addition you cannot intimidate nobody doing a call, maybe just isolate the player that made the original move.
Anyway, he made his game and had success. Good for him, even with (in my opinion) questionables moves.
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jokerjay311
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