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so im using the ICM quiz on PT4 and it sits me on the button with AKs with 8 bb.
we are on the STONE BUBBLE, 3 paid 4 left (50 30 20 i think)

SB has under 4 BB
BB has 5BB behind his blind

and CO jams with 57BB.


push or fold?

fold. so i check AA - push. KK - fold.

you're honestly telling me the only hand you push here is AA? fold KK? fold AKs?

like, who ****ing does that? lol....


mind you it reminds me of a satty i played where i woke up with AA UTG and literally could have walked away and waited for someone to blind out beside me in a few orbits, but some huge stack called it down with kto and flopped full so.. i guess it makes sense. no PCA that year :p lol


but this is just for a 10 handed sng.. most of the 10max single table sng's i play are for 1/100th or less of my bankroll so.. you really expect me to fold here?

the real question.. would you? lol
 
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i should probably add that the AKs was 20.09 push and 24.82 fold so it wasnt nearly as close as KK or AA (KK being 23.36push and AA being 26.97 push, both still 24.82 fold)


but i was surprised that it wasnt much closer... like, if i bust here with AKs or KK, oh well...
 
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The only reason that PT4's shoving range is AA in that instance is due to the stack sizes of the blinds. If they were bigger, or if everyone had similar stacks, the shoving range would increase to include AKs.
 
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i know. i took into account stack sizes. i took into account we're on the bubble. i would still shove there, and didn't expect to see a 5 point deficit icm to folding with AKs here..

i mean, really.. who is folding here? lol i think what ICM fails to account is that people play to win a lot of the time rather than just min cashing. yes, you would want to cash rather than not cash but im not really looking for a min cash.

should've taken a poll to see how many people push/fold here :p would've been a great spot for one without ruining it with all the spoilers :p lol
 
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