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Lol I really need help, i need to learn to control myself when i play online poker... its so easy to keep playing :cool:. This never happens to me live lol thats weird:rolleyes:. SO any one got any tips cuz i can sure use some, besides that i am a great poker player but i get carried away and thats how i lose my money. :joyman:

HELP!!!!
 
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Do you mean you need help quitting when your tilting? I was not that clear. Search for some posts regarding tilt.
 
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Lol I really need help, i need to learn to control myself when i play online poker... its so easy to keep playing :cool:. This never happens to me live lol thats weird:rolleyes:. SO any one got any tips cuz i can sure use some, besides that i am a great poker player but i get carried away and thats how i lose my money. :joyman:

HELP!!!!

If you're talking about the length of play, just keep track of your performance online. Overall, you will see a point in time during a poker session that you become unprofitable.

For example: If you play for 4 hours and you make a profit for 2 hours then go on the slide after that, just institute a 2 hours max timeframe. The trick is to set limits and stick to it.
 
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i know exactly how you feel once you win a big pot it all seems to dissappear without even noticing..i went through that many times. haha its kinda ridiculous
 
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I think there is a disconnect with valuing digital money. Keep in mind that is real cash you are betting. Put a stack of money next to the computer if you have too.

I also recommend that once you profit some, take out the won cash and treat yourself to something with it. It will make all your on-line gambling money more "real."
 
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Lol its not that i play bad, i can assure you that 85% of the time i go all in a tournament i have the best hand when the cards are turned. Thats not even all this was how i loss all my money last month i havent put money since. Im playing a $11 45 sng, i make final table theres 7 people left this blows man. I get kings i bet this guy goes all in i have 15k in chips he had like 4 more so i called he had pocket 1010, guess what he hits a 10. Im a little heated but next hand i get kings again i was thinking of folding and i think i should of folded but hey this other guy goes all in for 3k i call he has aces. Now im on tilt officially i dont know about you guys but when i keep fliping the best hand and it keeps getting beat im on tilt, 2 hands later i get 1010 i got like 5k left this guy raise i go all, he calls me with A 2 of spades and gets a flush how stupid is that :(. But the i was so heated i went and put all the bankroll on a cash game in wich case i had the best hand again but he called $90 dollars on a turn to catch a flush........ fulltilt is rigged

Now what i need is a way or a plan. Yall should help me, i had two things in mind, i can either ban myself on fulltilt for 6 hours cuz if i dont i will probably play lol. Or i can lower the stakes so that when i lose it doesnt affect me as much. What yall think? :)
 
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Noone responded lol means im deadmoney :(, well i take your opinion next time, i hope i am still not talkin to myself or i must be boring lol that sucks badly. I need friends up in this i need people that care i am losing money here lol. I hope someone will write sometime tomorow, i hope i girl writes lol it will make me feel like losing more money :p... im going to sleep
 
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tsabbat said:
But i was so heated i went and put all the bankroll on a cash game in wich case i had the best hand again but he called $90 dollars on a turn to catch a flush........ fulltilt is rigged
If this is happening (see bold), you are on tilt my friend, and definitely need to take a break! If you aren't disciplined enough to just turn off the poker client and walk away, then self exclusion is probably the answer. The mark of a good (and successful) player is one that:
  1. Follows good bankroll management practices, thus protecting your bankroll against downswings.
  2. Either knows that badbeats happen, and not getting heated when it does happen (this can take some time), or knowing when he is heated and tilting, and STOPS playing immediately.
Most of the time, when a bad beat happens to me, it doesn't bother me. It's happened so many times, that I come to practically expect it. But, on those occassions when I still get a little steamed, I have to get up and walk away, and find something else to occupy my time. If I don't, I could very easily blow my entire bankroll in the way you described.
 
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I absolutely see what your saying, but it is not the bad beat that bothers me. You sometimes you get a bad beat you could of avoided it, but there's times where you where trying to avoid a bad beat and out of the blue this guy makes a call you look at his cards and laugh and the turn and river totally sucks you out and i mean i go all in to avoid bad beats all the time, but it doenst scare them off thats what bothers me.

Its when you look back at your stats and see how perfect how patient, how good you were playing and it ends like this loool. Any of you guys use poker office so far i think its the best tool for keeping track and replaying hands. Im telling you i raise preflop, i bet more the half the pot on flop go all in on turn and they still call me for all their chips on a 4 card draw and hit it thats just terrible poker odds, i mean my stats are there on pokeroffice 85 % of the hands i went all in i had the best hand.

For example im in a cash game 6 handed .25/.50. I raise it to 1.50 with k J suited flop come K 6 2 ... no flush draws so im feeling pretty good its 3 handed i bet 2.50 one guy goes out and one stays THE TURN is a 3 he bets 5 i go allin for 25 more he calls me HE HAS K 9 and a 9 comes on the river. I mean its not the bad beat that pisses ,e off its everytime i get one its always for all my chips it because i am aggressive and i protect my hand so i mean WOW fulltilt
 
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All of these threads say basically the same thing. " I'm a great poker player but i lose my money". NO YOU ARE NOT. Good players win money. Donks and fish lose money. Overconfident donks lose faster.:):):)
 
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All of these threads say basically the same thing. " I'm a great poker player but i lose my money". NO YOU ARE NOT. Good players win money. Donks and fish lose money. Overconfident donks lose faste/quote]


I like what you are saying. Farely i cant judge my own poker skills. Maybe someone else could, but what i can assure you is that i am no DONK/Fish. I can tell you that 95% of the hands i went all in with, I had the best hand when i went all in. I can say i dont know what type of players call all in for all there chips with a 4 card draw but dam, :eek: I know i will never be that player. I call small bets, but not once have i call an all in on a 4 card draw. I know how to read players pretty good and also i know when i have the best hand. Also i aint scared to lay hands down like kings or aces which I HAVE DONE ALREADY lol. Either ways mate i play a farely good poker and when i get going again we might join up and play a tournament.
:cool: Ill be patiently waiting....
 
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i have learned to turn off the comp it helps lol i know wat u mean i just walk away go to bed or fishing cuz it gets real addicting
 
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I like what you are saying. Farely i cant judge my own poker skills. Maybe someone else could

Download Hold'em Manager or Poker Tracker to track your stats. After a session you can go back and see exactly what hands give you problems and how your skills rate. In a nutshell it'll force you to face facts and help teach you how to be a better player simply because a computer program has no pride, only cold hard facts.

Even more imprortant for you is to learn bankroll management! Go to the strategy articles and you'll find some great stuff there and while you're at it do a search here for threads on BR managment, you'll finds tons of great info!

I certainly don't want to sound cruel, only wish to help you out. JQ's post should have helped a lot and I hope MrMuckets post opened your eyes about bankroll managment. Wasting all of your BR on one game after a bad beat is simply throwing good money out after bad.

Best of luck,
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Ill take ur advice into consideration adventurebound, i actually have a tracker i think it works pretty good its called poker office. But you are right i need to learn better bankroll management. I wish i sign in to this site couple years ago that would of been a great helper. The times were i had 500 and my acoount and i blew it badly, went on tilt and went to go play cash games for some stupid reason but hey im looking forward to having money soon and i will share my strategy if i start winning :p
 
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dude, i guess there are more players that feel the way you are. i swear a while back i took a bunch of hits playing limit and getting rivered again and again. there after decided to play an all nighter to make it back. learn soon after than, in order to play your best poker you need to be rested and in a good frame of mind.

turn the pc of, blow off some steam, play a round of golf, service the mrs. whatever it is, get your centre and believe in your fundamentals and abilities
 
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Did you all see some of the things this guy said??

He goes all in to avoid suckouts. He played in a cash game and lost EVERYTHING 90 bucks in one hand...

You need to do some studying of the game my friend....there are a lot of good articles here on when and why to go all in....
There are also several articles and posts on bankroll management.

I'd take the next 90 bucks and buy a couple 3 or 4 poker books and do some reading. You're NOT playing proper poker.
 
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dude, i guess there are more players that feel the way you are. i swear a while back i took a bunch of hits playing limit and getting rivered again and again. there after decided to play an all nighter to make it back. learn soon after than, in order to play your best poker you need to be rested and in a good frame of mind.

turn the pc of, blow off some steam, play a round of golf, service the mrs. whatever it is, get your centre and believe in your fundamentals and abilities

I'll take servicing the Mrs anytime. Seriously though, IMO the only time to push pre flop is with KK or QQ so an A rag folds. Anything below QQ, flat call and see a flop, then push if it's all under cards, if a fish calls with AK, take his chips. AK, the most over rated hand in poker.
 
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Regulating your play

I know what you mean about playing too long. I have found that setting a win limit helps me. (or a lose limit lol). So get disciplined about winning or losing, every table cools off, its just mathematical averages that your going to go south on winning, so the trick is to leave when your up, if you get a big win early set an amount of re investment on the table and either double it or leave when its lost, and it should always be an amount that is winnings at that point. And never feel guilty about leaving a table early if you get a big winner! The point is to win, not give someone a chance to re coup from you.

gl in all your gamming
 
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All of these threads say basically the same thing. " I'm a great poker player but i lose my money". NO YOU ARE NOT. Good players win money. Donks and fish lose money. Overconfident donks lose faste/quote]

i am no DONK/Fish. I can tell you that 95% of the hands i went all in with, I had the best hand when i went all in.


So what? If you're favored when you go in, you'll win in the long run the percentage of times you're supposed to win.

How many of us, with pocket fours and $10 in the pot, throw in another $50 for example after putting the opponent on AK. You have the best hand. Is it worth it to put a big chunk of our money on this slim advantage? I'd say no. Who among you would make this bet? Remember, your read might be wrong too. And if you lose, is it really a suckout worth a big whine?

Being ahead in the hand at the time you make the bet is only part of the game. Are your bets on previous streets building a plausible scenario that your opponents will believe? And if they won't or can't or are just the proverbial bad players that can't make a laydown, THAT too is your responsibility. Know your opposition. Know what they are capable of and don't be making fancy plays and bluffs they won't understand, then say you're the best player - it's just that nobody else was smart enough to notice.

The best player is the one who gages the opposition and plays the game in such a way to exploit their weaknesses and avoid the pitfalls presented both by BAD players and GOOD players. I know exactly where you're coming from, man, because I used to have that same whine. But like Muckets says, it doesn't add up that all these great players like yourself suffer the injustice of losing money. You gotta be honest with yourself. You might have some good poker knowledge, but your strategies are not evolved enough that you're responding to different scenarios and player types. If you think you can beat great players but you just can't beat the bad ones, then learn to beat the bad ones.

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