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I went off my bankroll management after tilting severely on MULTIPLE huge bad beats in a heads up SnG. Now, I had managed to make 1 million play money and sell it for 5 dollars, and slowly grinded those 5 dollars up to 19 dollars and 40 cents. After losing this SnG of 2 dollars (sure, maybe it's a bit over my bankroll, but the rake is same as rake for 1 dollar SnG, so it's wiser to play the 2 dollar one), I lost it. I was at 2500 chips vs his 500 chips for a good 10 minutes (he just kept lucking out and I kept grinding to keep him there). Then he gets 4 huge bad beats on me and knocks me out. I felt so horrible, I went to play heads up razz on the 1$-2$ (I would need a bankroll of 600 dollars to play that limit). Well, I had one buyin for it, although granted I'm quite good at heads up razz, and i'd say have a good shot of beating out of the average population who plays this limit maybe 90% of them, it's still way over my bankroll. I found one guy who'm I took 48 dollars off of, and when he left, I realised what a moron I was being for tilting out and going off my bankroll, and that's about it. How do you guys prevent from losing your minds and playing above your bankroll when some donk just gets lucky AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and a fourth time, AGAIN? Sure, I'm happy that I got up to 65 bucks, will make losing it much harder, but IM PISSED at myself for tilting out in the first place and risking my bankroll on stupidity.
 
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It's not something that just happens. You need to take a good look at what you are doing and just focus. You have what it takes to practice good bankroll management. Everyone does.

It took me 3 years to find the patience and will to practice proper bankroll management. Sure I dabbled around losing 5 bucks here and there on poker sites, getting up to 200k play chips on a good run, but it always goes away in the end. Now that I practice bankroll management, I'm on the verge of breaking into real money again and I feel confident that I can beat the lowest limits in real money cash games.

Maybe you aren't ready yet to practice good bankroll management; until you are, I'd suggest taking a break (if not entirely maybe just from real money). I know you can do it, you're a good player. Just realize that playing outside of your bankroll is just as big of a leak in your game as calling all in with any two cards.
 
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You can sell play money for real money? Are you serious? To who? How?

This is insane. Why would somebody give you real money for play money? If that were the case I could just go and buy 100 sets of the monopoly board game and sell the play money from that
 
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Haha, ofcourse you can. There are people who want to play the high stakes play money games. And since they have a few hundred bucks in real money, don't feel bad about forking out 5 bucks for a million. There are websites that will buy massive ammounts of play money (as in if you had 200 million play chips, you could sell it to a website f or 1,000 dollars). Then the website sells it for 10 bucks a million or so and double up on profits. On pokerstars it's 100% legal. On full tilt, you can't send someone play money, so what you have to do it go to a table, enter with 10k, raise to 9,999, he reraises, you fold. Go to bigger table, do same, until you pass on all the money u had to pass on. The people who buy it can be found easily, because they generally are reailing the biggest tabes (the 50k-100k NLHE table). Just go there and type "selling play chips". You can generally with a bit of luck find someone who wants to buy.
 
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CardConnoisseur said:
I went off my bankroll management after tilting severely on MULTIPLE huge bad beats in a heads up SnG. Now, I had managed to make 1 million play money and sell it for 5 dollars, and slowly grinded those 5 dollars up to 19 dollars and 40 cents. After losing this SnG of 2 dollars (sure, maybe it's a bit over my bankroll, but the rake is same as rake for 1 dollar SnG, so it's wiser to play the 2 dollar one), I lost it. I was at 2500 chips vs his 500 chips for a good 10 minutes (he just kept lucking out and I kept grinding to keep him there). Then he gets 4 huge bad beats on me and knocks me out. I felt so horrible, I went to play heads up razz on the 1$-2$ (I would need a bankroll of 600 dollars to play that limit). Well, I had one buyin for it, although granted I'm quite good at heads up razz, and i'd say have a good shot of beating out of the average population who plays this limit maybe 90% of them, it's still way over my bankroll. I found one guy who'm I took 48 dollars off of, and when he left, I realised what a moron I was being for tilting out and going off my bankroll, and that's about it. How do you guys prevent from losing your minds and playing above your bankroll when some donk just gets lucky AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and a fourth time, AGAIN? Sure, I'm happy that I got up to 65 bucks, will make losing it much harder, but IM PISSED at myself for tilting out in the first place and risking my bankroll on stupidity.
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Here is how I handled a very similar situation. I am not prone to tilt badly (at least this is my delusion), but I know, deep in my heart that the micro games are the worst tilt inducing games that exist.

So what I did was set myself up a reward system. Goes like this;

Play the $2 sng's and when I cash I take a goodly chunk of that and play a game over my BRM guidlines. As expected the higher buy-in games provide a much saner game, and I have tended to do fairly well at them. I don't jump up every time, but a couple of bigger better games a week has been good to me.

My basic BRM, and bankroll are still in tact, and I don't induce self guilt.

I only slightly panic when any bankroll (1 br's per site) gets near my initial deposit. Then I hunker down and do the grind and so far have not busted anywhere. I can see how I could have, and perhaps I withdrew too much from UB (leaving me dangerously short there) but you'll even notice there that the operable word is 'withdrew'.

Moral of my suggestion is that the grind is ugly NECESSARY work, and the occasional reward is justified. (IMO)
 
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