I am missing the old days.

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Today, I was hopping around youtube and ran across some of the old tuff_fish videos. Does anyone else remember those?

He was playing $2/$4NL - $5/$10NL (6-max) and the games were noticeably weaker than the 10c/25cNL games online these days. People limping, overlimping, or minraising most of the time. When someone does get around to an aggressive action, the bet sizing is random and horrible. I mean, open 4x-5xbb. Or even larger.

I like tuff_fish, especially because he was trying to get better, but his bet-sizing is just horrible. In one spot, the button opens to 3.5xbb, the SB folds, and tuff_fish decides to 3bet to 7.5xbb. It's almost a min-3-bet, and out of position. He gets called, by 9-7, and it's hard to say how horrible that call is because of the small size of the 3-bet. I guess we can assume it's pretty horrible.

There's little to no regard to bet sizing in relation to stacks. If it's in relation to the pot, it's almost full pot for everything.

It's bad. It's amazing. I miss those days. Seriously, go observe a 25NL 6-max table and compare the play to the tables on his videos. It will make those of you who weren't around understand what us old-timers are ranting about when we talk about how soft the games were.

Edit: Here's a link to get you started on watching him. Free up some time. It's worth it.
 
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I forgot all about this videos. Classics! He gets even angrier and funnier than I remember. It has definitely changed, but honestly with ACR, ignition, and BoL readily available to most US players and maybe the influence of Twitch Poker it feels like things have improved somewhat lately. You're right, it'll never be like it was though.
 
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Hold on, friend. Next will only get worse
 
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Online game has completely changed since 2006. Perhaps nostalgia makes watching such videos, but remember that it's impossible to play like that.
 
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Over time, everything becomes more difficult than the opponents who once played poker, some have gained more experience and as a consequence are better so more difficult to face them.
I remember that one friend told me that playing was so much easier, this was 8 years many online poker players are at the level they are nowadays because studied a lot
Who stopped in time is now outdated and his game has not evolved like other players this is the difference
 
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Ev1 longs for the good old days Black Friday changed everything Poker will never be the same.
poker online videos are great memories.
 
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The faces may have changed,but the song remains the same;)
 
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Who are you to cry that your opponents became better? Who are you to scream at destiny for making others than yourselves champions too?

Do not cry that there are other sharks in the water, adapt and outplay. They are tighter now than before? You play looser then. They are more sensitive to bet sizing? bluff big and bait small then.

Abuse their adaptions, turn their darwinist alterations against them. They have adapted to play against fish so become the antifish.
 
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Who are you to cry that your opponents became better? Who are you to scream at destiny for making others than yourselves champions too?

Do not cry that there are other sharks in the water, adapt and outplay. They are tighter now than before? You play looser then. They are more sensitive to bet sizing? Bluff big and bait small then.

Abuse their adaptions, turn their darwinist alterations against them. They have adapted to play against fish so become the antifish.

This is missing the point, entirely. The games back then were just full of new players and new money. Can you beat the game today? Yeah, if you're good enough. But, you'll never beat it at the rate it used to be beatable at anything close to the height in stakes. It's like saying, "why complain that you can't find any t-ball games? Just get good enough to beat everyone in the major league."
 
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Years ago my best friend and I would binge watch tuff_fish videos. Those were a lot of entertainment.
 
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This is missing the point, entirely. The games back then were just full of new players and new money. Can you beat the game today? Yeah, if you're good enough. But, you'll never beat it at the rate it used to be beatable at anything close to the height in stakes. It's like saying, "why complain that you can't find any t-ball games? Just get good enough to beat everyone in the major league."
I get it, you were once dominant and now you're the sucker on the table. This is because the others are not as passive or stupid anymore. I get it.
 
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LOL, you are a treasure RM. Now, how do I get my ignore lost functional on the phone App?
 
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diffeerence

I think part of the difference is the increase of users in the network games, to that we add the percentage that is applied in one of the schools and those "autodidacts" that do not carry a clear line. At this point, I think, the difference is based when we are not accustomed to the wide ranges they use. 8 years ago the number of players was below the current 45%. The new forms lead us to evolve, stripping ourselves of acquired criteria.
 
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I do not understand how you can regret soft tables - it's also the same thing as regret that you took skates from children, and now they have grown and give you a rebuff. :(
 
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