How often should you be making the final table and cashing big in micro tourneys?

Ive heard you should be ITM about 1 in 10. How often should you be cashing big like at the final table? Ive been trying to do the ferguson challenge ever since ive started nd am going to start playing tourneys as well as sngs now to give cashing big a chance cause I noticed a lot of fergusons success came from the tourneys rather than cash alone.

how often should you be hitting big in micros? in higher stakes major tourneys you can go a couple of years.:santaclau

It depends on the tournament size.
There is no "should."
I guess if you "should" be profitable, you need to make the final table often enough that the sum total of your payouts are greater than the sum total of your buy-ins. But if you "should" be making a an average 20% ROI, or you "should" be making a certain amount of money a year those numbers are going to be different, as they rely on different factors.

It's also a numbers thing.
The bigger the tournament, the harder it will be to go far, but the bigger your payment will be when you hit. Obviously 10% of players in a 90-player tournament make the final table, 1% of the people in a 900 player tournament make the final table, and .10% of the people in a 9,000 player tournament make it to the final table (that's one in a thousand). Obviously you can't expect to make the final table in a 9k player tournament 10% of the time, and obviously you'll want to be doing better than 10% in a 45 player tournament.

1 out of 5, any less than that you need to find a new hobby.

i think of ROI, not number of ITM or FT.

25% of ROI is nice for me

josephs333 said:

1 out of 5, any less than that you need to find a new hobby.

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Please go look at the stats of the best MTT players out there according to officialpokerrankings.com - some of them cash in only 15% but have six figure profits, should they get a new hobby ?

dufferdevon said:

Please go look at the stats of the best MTT players out there according to officialpokerrankings.com - some of them cash in only 15% but have six figure profits, should they get a new hobby ?

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I dont think that is Profit i think that is how much tourney payout they have taken in that doesnt taken to consideration of the entry fees for all the other 85% they didnt cash in

steortex said:

I dont think that is Profit i think that is how much tourney payout they have taken in that doesnt taken to consideration of the entry fees for all the other 85% they didnt cash in

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Please visit the site before you make statements about it. As you can see, there is a column for total won, and one for profit (this takes the amount won less the buy-ins).

Also note the % of tournies he has cashed in (15%)

yeah, cashing 1 out of every 5 tournies you enter is insanely good. You must be kidding if you think anything worse than 1 in 5 should result in someone needing to "find a new hobby"

how often would you win a tourney with about 3k ppl?once a year?hypotetically speaking just.

The really good players win a big score (+100k) once every 6 months or so. And they are playing 4-6 MTTs a day or more with $100+ buyins.

I am finding the 45man SNGs really profitable at the moment. It provides a good MTT feel but still small enough to finish in under two hours and really easy to multi-table.

I'm doing the ferguson challenge too. I'm at 2.5k atm, with most of it coming from tourney wins. Still, I would suggest that you stick to cash games, just throwing in a few MTTs a day would be good. I've been on a rough stretch in MTTs before, with 20 or 30 tourneys with no cash or good finishes. At least cash games give you that bit of cushion with fewer variance. If you want to play tourneys, at least do it with proper BR (100 buy-ins). That should be enough to accommodate any downswings.