Originally Posted by Melkor
Call the original first raise with QQ? That is pretty bad. QQ is a 3-bet like 99.9% of the time here. The idea of a tourny is to accumulate chips and this hand we push to the max and want to see an all-in. As for not being 'the nuts', it is the third best hand you can have pf, what more you wanting?
And even though it is easy to get off QQ on a KAx board what if 258r had come out? You still 'spanking those ladies'. Absolutely not.
The hand was played completely standard and is just unlucky. Zachvac's post is spot on with the 'expert player' thing.
IMO, there are TWO objectives in a tourney. Accumulate chips AND stay alive. You cannot win anything with no chips and no chair. Third best starting hand?? Yep - pf ONLY
. I just cannot wrap my mind around not wanting to see cards to make intelligent poker decisions.
In this case you have 2 outs, that's it. You are beat by AA, KK or a coin flip (IMO) facing any Ax or Kx, not to mention what a flop might bring. OP said he had the reads. The writing was on the wall, and he didn't want to read.
Since several agreed with Zach, re-read his post. He put the caveat aboard that his post was UNLESS it was several hundred buy-in. In fact, it was
165euro. OP added that players were good (so he had a history read) and villain had been playing tight. I can't say the preflop raise would have made me fold, but I think I would have at least simply called. SHOW ME CARDS, not Lady Luck's backside as I exit the building.
If just playing the odds were a formula for success, why can't you just go to the horsetrack and bet the favorite to win every race, and come away a winner? Good pony players want to see the form AND the horse. They don't run to the window and plop their cash, sight unseen, on every favorite. (at least none that I know)
I fully understand that I am in a minority going against the 'insta-calls' and 'gotta push' advisories. The only thing that I have to back up what I believe is that I play 99% online on Stars and Tilt and have small BR's on each site - and I have never deposited one thin dime anywhere online. I also play live smaller MTT's when I can and started playing live in '69.
It's been said over and over (by forum members, here and elsewhere) that playing the way I do will not make me a winning poker player. Since my live wins have always paid for my tourney losses and I have BR's generated by FR's (and some stud ring games from time to time), am I a losing player? Please.... let me lose this way ...
Just like the old saying that 'old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill', I also subscribe to 'patience and discipline will overcome youth and aggression' when it comes to poker. Play on ... insta-call = insta-out. Reload, rebuy, re-deposit ... it's only money ...
My point, relating to the OP, trust what you know. IMO, there are better situations to put all your chips in the middle. Cooler-schmooler, you ran out into the freeway traffic blindfolded. See cards, my friend, see cards.