How Do You Deal With "THOSE" Players at Live Tables?

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You know the players I'm taking about the ones who think they always make the best plays. Everyone else at the table has no idea what going on and they let people know it every chance they get.

This is the best way I think. My brother was playing 1/2. He and most other player at the table are regulars. This guy comes to the table and when he first sits down starts bragging about how good he is. After about 2hours of being a complete dick to everother player, my brother gets into a hand with the guy and on the river the guy shoves into a pot around $250-$300 my brother only had $120 behind. He thinks for a while with tptk on a very wet board, sitting in seat 9 he grabs his $100 stack drops it into the tip jar and then calls for $20. The guy was bluffing my brother wins not expecting to. Obviously the guy loses it, yelling, swearing and calling for the house. He clams down enough to tell my brother he cost himself $100. My brother then said if I didn't do that I wasn't calling and the table erupted in laughter. The house did come by and just told my brother not to do it again.
 
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i don t like that kind of players..its only a game..and we must behave properly..
 
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I've not played live yet but I've thought about the more general question of how do you play without other players taking a bad beat personally. Is it even possible? On one hand, you don't want to unnecessarily make other people mad because, thanks to the lack of sufficient gun control in the US, any person with a gun can wait for you out in the parking lot. On the other hand, getting inside your opponent's head and getting him to play badly is part of the game.
 
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I've never had the opportunity to play live, but I'd try not to let it bother me because those are the kind of people you know that'll pay you off down the line. Their hubris will crush them in the end.
 
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OK your brother is absolutely the one in the wrong there - you're not supposed to take money off the table during the hand, even for tipping, and I'm amazed the dealer let him do it.

Was the other player a douche? Yeah, possibly. But learning to deal with them is just part of the poker experience. As described, that player did nothing wrong in this hand.
 
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You need to consider how to play the opponent. For example, today I was playing a live tournament, with buy-ins 2.5$(rebuy). Was attended by 17 people. I took first place. My winnings amounted to 55$. I love live poker.
 
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I think your brother is in the wrong for tipping before the hand is over, but I like how your brother treated that guy and how he thinks he knows it all in poker.
 
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just don't even pay attention to THAT guy. just play your game
 
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OK your brother is absolutely the one in the wrong there - you're not supposed to take money off the table during the hand, even for tipping, and I'm amazed the dealer let him do it.

Was the other player a douche? Yeah, possibly. But learning to deal with them is just part of the poker experience. As described, that player did nothing wrong in this hand.

My point wasn't who in the hand was wrong or right. If you go to a Casino and play in a game and treat other player badly you can't expect to just get away with that type of behavior unchecked.
 
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If you go to a Casino and play in a game and treat other player badly you can't expect to just get away with that type of behavior unchecked.

LOL sure you can - as long as you're not actually breaking the rules of the game. There's no rule against being an arrogant asshat*. If there were Phil Hellmuth would have been banned from poker rooms across the world years ago.

Anywho, you were claiming what your brother did was the "best way" to deal with players you don't like. My point was that it's absolutely the
WORST way to do it. Seriously, you're saying people to angle shoot and break the rules of the game just because they don't like another player. Sad. Chances are you're the one who'll end up penalised.

* unless you're crossing the line by being profane/physically abusive/etc, obviously
 
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i just play my hands and the table. the rest will work itself out
 
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I love seeing those guys come to the live table. And I love seeing them go as well. =)
 
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I tend to like these types of players because they are over confident which is something that can be deadly in the game of poker. With that being said i avoid interacting with the player (besides playing hands) and i just try to block out the arrogant asshat type of behavior.
 
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Yeah, taking anything personally during a game is just a recipe to throw you off and lose.

Maybe I'm one of "those players". Like if you're not sure who is the dumbest person in your study group, it's probably you.
 
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Just focus on yourself cause if u let a player get under your skin u will end up losing
 
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That's the variety I like most about Poker, you never know what kind of player you can find. These players who talk so much and try to get you out of the game are very dangerous. Most do it to know our strategy and take advantage of this.
 
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I play and call is bet because anyway He will bet any position in any hand so I have a chance to beat him if he slow down. Yhese type of player is always at each table. His stack going to rollercoaster up and down every 30 min. So be patient and when he bet call or raise.
 
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LOL sure you can - as long as you're not actually breaking the rules of the game. There's no rule against being an arrogant asshat*. If there were Phil Hellmuth would have been banned from poker rooms across the world years ago.

Anywho, you were claiming what your brother did was the "best way" to deal with players you don't like. My point was that it's absolutely the
WORST way to do it. Seriously, you're saying people to angle shoot and break the rules of the game just because they don't like another player. Sad. Chances are you're the one who'll end up penalised.

* unless you're crossing the line by being profane/physically abusive/etc, obviously

It's not dealing with players you don't like. It's players that make the game a terrible experience for everyone else at the table. There are a lot of players who you will not like and it's easy to just ignore the but there is that specific person who ruins the game for everyone at the and makes it impossible to enjoy playing. This obviously isn't a situation you deal on a daily basis you might come cross these types of people a couple times a year. After my brother did that the stopped deliberately trying to piss people off and played normal until he left the game. So it was effective and nothing else made a difference to him till that happened. Other players at the table had tired to curb his antics by calling the house but there wasn't anything they could do since technically he was breaking the rules of the game. Every time someone would call the house on him he would laugh and say they can't do anything so sometimes you need to go to a last resort. Maybe it just hard to convey exactly what this guy was like or how he affected the mood of everyone at the table. Again it wasn't just a case of a personality difference.
 
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It's not dealing with players you don't like. It's players that make the game a terrible experience for everyone else at the table. There are a lot of players who you will not like and it's easy to just ignore the but there is that specific person who ruins the game for everyone at the and makes it impossible to enjoy playing. This obviously isn't a situation you deal on a daily basis you might come cross these types of people a couple times a year. After my brother did that the stopped deliberately trying to piss people off and played normal until he left the game. So it was effective and nothing else made a difference to him till that happened. Other players at the table had tired to curb his antics by calling the house but there wasn't anything they could do since technically he was breaking the rules of the game. Every time someone would call the house on him he would laugh and say they can't do anything so sometimes you need to go to a last resort. Maybe it just hard to convey exactly what this guy was like or how he affected the mood of everyone at the table. Again it wasn't just a case of a personality difference.

...and that's exactly the point. The other player was a jerk, but he wasn't breaking the rules.

What your brother did, on the other hand, was basically the same as "going south" (taking in-play chips off the table), which is generally considered one of the scummiest things you can do in live poker. So, y'know, way to teach the other guy how not to be a douche by being a douche?
 
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Yeah that's odd. He didn't teach that guy anything and cost him money. I just sit back and play my game. I also will pay attention to anything he says that might give off some information. Even a pile of garbage can have a hidden gem.
 
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...and that's exactly the point. The other player was a jerk, but he wasn't breaking the rules.

What your brother did, on the other hand, was basically the same as "going south" (taking in-play chips off the table), which is generally considered one of the scummiest things you can do in live poker. So, y'know, way to teach the other guy how not to be a douche by being a douche?

Ok I'm done trying to explain it you just focusing on one fact that you just can't see past. Also you seem to still think the guy in question was just your average loud dickhead. I guess it's just one of those things were you had to be there.
 
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Its funny, seems like there is always 1 person at every table Im at that gets under my skin and if im not careful it will affect my game - sometimes I will literally change tables
Whats helped me a lot has been wearing headphones lately
 
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Ok I'm done trying to explain it you just focusing on one fact that you just can't see past. Also you seem to still think the guy in question was just your average loud dickhead. I guess it's just one of those things were you had to be there.

No I get it, the guy was an real asshat. I've played with them and I've dealt to them. Unless they're breaking the rules of the game though then there's not much you can do about them - all you can change is how you react to them.

And all I'm suggesting is that breaking the rules yourself is probably the worst possible reaction you could have.

In this case on top of everything else your brother cost himself money. If he had've been wrong and lost the hand BTW I'd be amazed if the floor would have let it stand that he took the $100 out of play, so in addition to breaking the rules he reverse-freerolled himself (if he wins the hand we would have won an extra $100 off villain, if villain wins he probably gets your brother's $100 anyway - and how insufferable do you think he would have been then?)
 
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No I get it, the guy was an real asshat. I've played with them and I've dealt to them. Unless they're breaking the rules of the game though then there's not much you can do about them - all you can change is how you react to them.

And all I'm suggesting is that breaking the rules yourself is probably the worst possible reaction you could have.

In this case on top of everything else your brother cost himself money. If he had've been wrong and lost the hand BTW I'd be amazed if the floor would have let it stand that he took the $100 out of play, so in addition to breaking the rules he reverse-freerolled himself (if he wins the hand we would have won an extra $100 off villain, if villain wins he probably gets your brother's $100 anyway - and how insufferable do you think he would have been then?)

He didn't cost himself money because if he had tipped the $100 he would have folded. And even if he lost the hand probably the housemen would have said the same thing as they did because my brothers a regular and as I'm sure you know regulars get a little different treatment. Plus he tips dealers well all the time as well as tipping the waitress well so, that buys you some favor with casino staff
 
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You realise exactly none of what you've just said makes what your brother did OK, right? Nor would it make it OK for other people to do the same thing.
 
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