How to deal with tilt?

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Always had problems with this personally. Find it extremely difficult to cope with river suckouts, and bad players who happen to turn miracle hands to beat my premium starting hands. I tend to do what phil hellmuth does and cant help but barate bad players for raising with 10,4 offsuit like hands and beating my A,K suited. Tilt causes me to make illogical plays which i know i should not be making, but my ego always tends to get in the way of logic. I just cant help it, because river suckout after river suckout every time really takes its tole. You just get the feeling that whatever you do, you cant do anything right.

The thing which makes me the angriest is the fact i can never suckout but other people can do it to you all day long which sucks even more. I just don't know where people learn its good poker to bluff shove with K,J suited against my set to of kings to flop a royal flush which happened earlier today and got me fuming and made me throw my keyboard across the room. After this incident, i don't know if i ever want to play poker again. How do i deal with this constant shite which happens to me on a daily basis? Really its just absolutely redicolous some of the plays that people make and then end up winning. Don't get me wrong, i don't hate bad players, i only hate it when they win.
 
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well no1 likes to lose but the people who are playing terrible are the people who pay you off most of the time you just have to take it all in stride. Maybe play smaller buy ins so the suckouts dont hurt as much
 
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well no1 likes to lose but the people who are playing terrible are the people who pay you off most of the time you just have to take it all in stride. Maybe play smaller buy ins so the suckouts dont hurt as much

It's not the money its the principle of the matter... I could not give a shit about say loosing $5 because it's not much to me as a poker player. I would not be surprised that poker sites handicap bad players to give them the impression that there good players. Against winning players, games to seem to be normal where my good hands will hold up as much as they should which is fine by me. But against donks with -57% Rois bad beats seem to be so much more frequent. In my last 20 bad beats, i have searched all the players names on opr, and all were loosing players expect 1. The winning player actually made a correct call with a marginal hand against my under 10bb shove which was an acceptable play in my honest opinion. He was able flop trips against my pocket aces.
 
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If im really bugged by some suck-outs ill try to switch things up play at a different site or even take a break for the night and hit the casino the next day and play live, sometimes the different atmosphere can change your mood which can change your luck. if you go into any session thinking about how you always get sucked out on and you can never catch a break then it will end up happening damn near every time. Mind set is such a huge part of the game.
 
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It's not the money its the principle of the matter... I could not give a shit about say loosing $5 because it's not much to me as a poker player. I would not be surprised that poker sites handicap bad players to give them the impression that there good players. Against winning players, games to seem to be normal where my good hands will hold up as much as they should which is fine by me. But against donks with -57% Rois bad beats seem to be so much more frequent. In my last 20 bad beats, i have searched all the players names on opr, and all were loosing players expect 1. The winning player actually made a correct call with a marginal hand against my under 10bb shove which was an acceptable play in my honest opinion. He was able flop trips against my pocket aces.

Not another tilt thread. We've had a few of these here the lately. You might want to do a search. Some of them had some good advice in them.

Cliffs: Play within bankroll, set a stop-loss, take some time away once stop-loss is reached, come back in a better frame of mind.

Oh, and for the bolded above......come on down to the "rigtard" thread....:D
 
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Not another tilt thread. We've had a few of these here the lately. You might want to do a search. Some of them had some good advice in them.

Cliffs: Play within bankroll, set a stop-loss, take some time away once stop-loss is reached, come back in a better frame of mind.

Oh, and for the bolded above......come on down to the "rigtard" thread....:D


I am not saying this is the case, nor am i saying i believe it, however i would not put it past any poker site if they actually did this to some extent and it would not surprise me if they have/are doing it as we speak. I have always been a firm believer that online poker is not rigged, and till given comprehensive prove which cant be disputed to prove otherwise i will still hold it. Besides let's not go on tangents here.
 
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It's not the money its the principle of the matter... I could not give a shit about say loosing $5 because it's not much to me as a poker player. I would not be surprised that poker sites handicap bad players to give them the impression that there good players. Against winning players, games to seem to be normal where my good hands will hold up as much as they should which is fine by me. But against donks with -57% Rois bad beats seem to be so much more frequent. In my last 20 bad beats, i have searched all the players names on opr, and all were loosing players expect 1. The winning player actually made a correct call with a marginal hand against my under 10bb shove which was an acceptable play in my honest opinion. He was able flop trips against my pocket aces.

its not rigged
 
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I am not saying this is the case, nor am i saying i believe it, however i would not put it past any poker site if they actually did this to some extent and it would not surprise me if they have/are doing it as we speak. I have always been a firm believer that online poker is not rigged, and till given comprehensive prove which cant be disputed to prove otherwise i will still hold it. Besides let's not go on tangents here.

Really? You wouldn't think they have infinitely more reasons to run a "clean" game than a rigged one? And, its not really a tangent if you keep putting stuff like the bolded above in your posts.

Bad beats happen. Sometimes they happen in droves. Sometimes it seems like it'll never stop. That's poker. Welcome to the wonderful game you've chosen.

Just by pure logic who is going to administer more bad beats to you? Someone who plays inferior cards (can't give a bad beat when you start with the best hand). Who plays more inferior cards the most often? Hint, it's the bad players. Only natural, then, that bad players put more bad beats on people than any other class of players.
 
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Just by pure logic who is going to administer more bad beats to you? Someone who plays inferior cards (can't give a bad beat when you start with the best hand). Who plays more inferior cards the most often? Hint, it's the bad players. Only natural, then, that bad players put more bad beats on people than any other class of players.

Well stated.
 
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How to deal with tilt?

Simple. Just don't do it.

I'm not saying I don't get pissed off (tournament play)... but I don't alter how I make my future decisions because of it (because that would be pointless).
I've never broken anything either & doubt I ever will. I make the best decisions I can at each & every given moment... how it turns out .. oh well. ie. If I was able to get tardball-spewmonkey to rrai on turn with a gutterball.. thinking he's got FE.. & snap him off as 93% fave & he hits... oh well. (make a note, look forward to seeing him again & know there'll be many more just like him)
 
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Always had problems with this personally. Find it extremely difficult to cope with river suckouts, and bad players who happen to turn miracle hands to beat my premium starting hands. I tend to do what phil hellmuth does and cant help but barate bad players for raising with 10,4 offsuit like hands and beating my A,K suited. Tilt causes me to make illogical plays which i know i should not be making, but my ego always tends to get in the way of logic. I just cant help it, because river suckout after river suckout every time really takes its tole. You just get the feeling that whatever you do, you cant do anything right.

The thing which makes me the angriest is the fact i can never suckout but other people can do it to you all day long which sucks even more. I just don't know where people learn its good poker to bluff shove with K,J suited against my set to of kings to flop a royal flush which happened earlier today and got me fuming and made me throw my keyboard across the room. After this incident, i don't know if i ever want to play poker again. How do i deal with this constant shite which happens to me on a daily basis? Really its just absolutely redicolous some of the plays that people make and then end up winning. Don't get me wrong, i don't hate bad players, i only hate it when they win.

lol. Iasthere any point in giving somebody advice who thinks that.
 
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Always had problems with this personally. Find it extremely difficult to cope with river suckouts, and bad players who happen to turn miracle hands to beat my premium starting hands. I tend to do what phil hellmuth does and cant help but barate bad players for raising with 10,4 offsuit like hands and beating my A,K suited. Tilt causes me to make illogical plays which i know i should not be making, but my ego always tends to get in the way of logic. I just cant help it, because river suckout after river suckout every time really takes its tole. You just get the feeling that whatever you do, you cant do anything right.

The thing which makes me the angriest is the fact i can never suckout but other people can do it to you all day long which sucks even more. I just don't know where people learn its good poker to bluff shove with K,J suited against my set to of kings to flop a royal flush which happened earlier today and got me fuming and made me throw my keyboard across the room. After this incident, i don't know if i ever want to play poker again. How do i deal with this constant shite which happens to me on a daily basis? Really its just absolutely redicolous some of the plays that people make and then end up winning. Don't get me wrong, i don't hate bad players, i only hate it when they win.

how come people never EVER notice the times when they suckout?

I sucked out and hit my 3 outer reshipping 20bb HU in an SNG, villain had AQ.

happens bro.

and can guarantee these suckouts don't happen as often as you're saying they do, people never notice when their hand holds, only the ricer 3 outer.

AKs suited vs 10 4's like a 60/40 anyway, you're only a favourite and if you can't hack losing when you have a 20% edge then don't play..

..don't tell the fish they're bad, firstly they're playing for fun, they don't care whether they play bad or not and being abused just makes them leave the table and then the other regs lose out because of your shit temperament.

fact is if you get your money in good all the time then you can't be sucked out on because you're ahead.. naturally getting your money in bad less often means you suckout less often. duh.

on top of the fact every time you see a flop and hit you probably sucked out on someone who may have had you dominated. It's the game, no point letting it affect your play..

or writing a wall of text lol..

rant over.
 
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The best solution to tilt is not to do it. This is clearly better than dealing with it after it has happened. It can also be much harder. There are no magic bullets. It takes self-discipline, both to recognize when you're starting to get off the emotional state where you play your A game, and also to calm yourself back down or at least to avoid changing your game because of your emotional state. And it's a long process of slow improvement.

A good first step, IMO, is admitting to yourself that you're the problem. The more you blame the opponents who drew out on you, the more you're telling yourself that your tilting wasn't your fault when it was and always is 100% you.
 
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Am I missing something?? I always thought the answer to what to do on tilt was shove, rebuy, shove, rebuy, shove, rebuy, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat...

Oh do you mean how to avoid it? A thorough understanding of poker/gambling theory is very helpful (but you need to fully buy in to it). Then it's - oh well...
 
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i dont tilt....i do despise ppl who ZZZ and ppl who rant.....but i use the ignore button for that....one click and your done.....it's all good
 
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What is tilt ? Don't give yourself an excuse for bad play is how I look at it .
 
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if your really tilted and cant play well anymore, it is time to walk away for awhile. maybe the rest of that day.
 
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What is tilt ? Don't give yourself an excuse for bad play is how I look at it .


Bad play can result due to tilt in a good player. A bad player does not have to be tiltrd to play bad. He can even be feeling great and be playing his best game and be playing bad.

You statement shows you dont know what tilt means.

But then again, your post's first line kinda confirms that.
 
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Am I missing something?? I always thought the answer to what to do on tilt was shove, rebuy, shove, rebuy, shove, rebuy, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat...

Oh do you mean how to avoid it? A thorough understanding of poker/gambling theory is very helpful (but you need to fully buy in to it). Then it's - oh well...

How to deal with tilt not how to avoid it. Some great suggestions have been posted so far. I am like phil hellmuth on tv when i receive a bad beat, just envisage that.
 
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You desperately need to read The Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler. If that doesn't help you get to grips with tilt, nothing will. It identifies so many variations of tilt and what you can do to deal with them. Its full of good, sound advice of what you can do to combat the mindsets that tilt brings. It will also save you a small fortune in broken keyboards ;-)
 
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I get really mad sometimes, so much so that sometimes I get up and walk away from the game (for just a few minutes), then I realize Im losing more money so I sit back down. Just remember, you suck out somtimes too. It happens to all of us. r
 
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I get really mad sometimes, so much so that sometimes I get up and walk away from the game (for just a few minutes), then I realize Im losing more money so I sit back down. Just remember, you suck out somtimes too. It happens to all of us. r

Yeah i realise that when i come to think about. Ofcourse i suckout, but nowhere near as often as it happens to myself. I will defiantly have a look at the book listed above. I will no longer post in this thread so thanks all for your help.
 
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It just seems like it happens more times to you because you're at a table with 9 other players. So assuming they all get just 1 suckout each during the game, that puts the "Suckout" odds at 9 to 1 against you! you see 9 suckouts to your one. That would seem unfair to anyone, but that's just the way it is. It's all part of the game.
 
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