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I'm planning on holding a tournament with my partner, we've held some tournaments before for fun, but this will be the first one with a buy-in and prize. I need some advice on: Chip Values, Starting Stack, Prize Distribution, Blind Levels and Round Durations.

I have a poker set with 500 chip with 4 colours without values, there will be between 6 and 9 people coming, looking to play for 4-5 hours, and approximately 50% of the buy-in will pay for food and drink for the night.

We're looking for a deep stacked game, but with the small amount of chips available I'm not sure if it's possible, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

I have an ipad App called Blinds Up, it's really good and highly customisable so all blind levels, round durations, breaks, and antes can be entered.

Thank you in advance
 
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I'm planning on holding a tournament with my partner, we've held some tournaments before for fun, but this will be the first one with a buy-in and prize. I need some advice on: Chip Values, Starting Stack, Prize Distribution, Blind Levels and Round Durations.

I have a poker set with 500 chip with 4 colours without values, there will be between 6 and 9 people coming, looking to play for 4-5 hours, and approximately 50% of the buy-in will pay for food and drink for the night.

We're looking for a deep stacked game, but with the small amount of chips available I'm not sure if it's possible, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

I have an iPad app called Blinds Up, it's really good and highly customisable so all blind levels, round durations, breaks, and antes can be entered.

Thank you in advance
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500 chips will be tough but not impossible. Start your blinds at 25 - 25 then move them up as you see fit and assign blind lengths to get your game over when you want. Remember home tournaments like this dealing will be slow and you will not get a ton of hands per level. A 15 min blind level won't see everyone get a hand in the first couple levels until folks get knocked out.

Use 2 decks and have someone shuffling the off deck while playing the current hand.

Just a couple tips I have learned over the years.
 
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That is a really helpful site, thank you
 
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500 chips will be tough but not impossible. Start your blinds at 25 - 25 then move them up as you see fit and assign blind lengths to get your game over when you want. Remember home tournaments like this dealing will be slow and you will not get a ton of hands per level. A 15 min blind level won't see everyone get a hand in the first couple levels until folks get knocked out.

Use 2 decks and have someone shuffling the off deck while playing the current hand.

Just a couple tips I have learned over the years.
That will come in handy. I would never have thought about using two decks
 
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you must have white chips that can work as 25 points, blue 10 points, red 500 points and green 1000 points; so giving 10000 chips looks like it would be fine for a long sit and go and 10 minutes for the serious blind to rise. I think the optimum
 
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Chip values are largely aribitrary, what's more important is the gaps between them. You probably want each chip to be worth 4-5 times the one below it.

Say you start with a $5 chip, you might go with:

$5, $25, $100 and $500 chips.

Say you start with $5-$10 blinds, you could give everyone 10 x $5, 6 x $25, 8 x $100 and 2 x $500 for a $2000 starting stack, which is 200 BB. That's pretty deep.

Best advice I can give after that is to work backwards:

Say you get eight players, and you go with the $2k starting stacks above (I'm assuming it's a freezeout / no rebuys too). That puts $16k total chips in play.

Tournaments like this usually end when there's between 10 and 20 big blinds total left on the table. So you want the blinds to get to something like $500-$1000 around the time you want the tournament to end. Work the timing of your levels back from there and you're good to go.
 
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I'm planning on holding a tournament with my partner, we've held some tournaments before for fun, but this will be the first one with a buy-in and prize. I need some advice on: Chip Values, Starting Stack, Prize Distribution, Blind Levels and Round Durations.

I have a poker set with 500 chip with 4 colours without values, there will be between 6 and 9 people coming, looking to play for 4-5 hours, and approximately 50% of the buy-in will pay for food and drink for the night. What is the breakdown of colours/number of chips? Will there be rebuys? Will there only be one tournament? Do you have plans for a loser's lounge?

We're looking for a deep stacked game, but with the small amount of chips available I'm not sure if it's possible, but I'm happy to be proved wrong. It really depends on colour breakdown of chips.

I have an iPad app called Blinds Up, it's really good and highly customisable so all blind levels, round durations, breaks, and antes can be entered. Antes are best ignored in home games with inexperienced players IMO.

Thank you in advance

The prize payout really relies on the total number of buy ins including rebuys (?). I am assuming this to be straight up NLHE with no bounties?
 
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The prize payout really relies on the total number of buy ins including rebuys (?). I am assuming this to be straight up NLHE with no bounties?
Yes, no bounties. I don't think we'll have rebuys either, anyone out can sit on the PlayStation while everyone else is playing.

I have read that top prize in small sit and go's is 70% worth second place getting 30%, would this be good for a home tournament?
 
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Chip values are largely aribitrary, what's more important is the gaps between them. You probably want each chip to be worth 4-5 times the one below it.

Say you start with a $5 chip, you might go with:

$5, $25, $100 and $500 chips.

Say you start with $5-$10 blinds, you could give everyone 10 x $5, 6 x $25, 8 x $100 and 2 x $500 for a $2000 starting stack, which is 200 BB. That's pretty deep.

Best advice I can give after that is to work backwards:

Say you get eight players, and you go with the $2k starting stacks above (I'm assuming it's a freezeout / no rebuys too). That puts $16k total chips in play.

Tournaments like this usually end when there's between 10 and 20 big blinds total left on the table. So you want the blinds to get to something like $500-$1000 around the time you want the tournament to end. Work the timing of your levels back from there and you're good to go.
Thank you, I'll have to work it all out from there. Luckily I have some days before the tournament so there's plenty of time for me to test it all
 
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It really is crucial to know your chip breakdown - number of each colour. If you want one game to last 4-5 hours and only six people show up, it's going to be a looong game for both the last 2 or 3 players and the early bust outs.
 
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If half of everyone's buy in is going towards food and drink then yeah, 70/30 works.

If six players show up, 30% of half the buy ins = getting your money back, if nine players show up, 30%=1.5 buy ins.
 
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The more I think about this, the more I have to recommend two important points.

1 - It's mostly just semantics, but I highly recommend charging for food and drink separately from buy in. Instead of charging "X" for buy in, automatically pulling out (approx) .5X, and then playing 4-5 hours so that one "lucky" player can claim X and another 2.5X (in the case of 6 runners) is a payout that doesn't have good "optics" as they say. But if you charge "X" for buy in and "Y" for food, six runners results in one player winning 1.5X and one 4.5X. Then people can show up and not play, but still eat and drink. And, if you play two games, not everyone has to play both.

2- Play more than one game. It will move faster, keep more people busier (shorten losers' lounging), and spread more money around.
 
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