Originally Posted by Thinker_145
It is your view that an amateur cannot criticize or cannot play a particular hand better than a professional which is really flawed.
Tell me something. Do you ever criticize a company for some decision? Would you criticize nokia and blackberry? But I bet you are not more qualified than their CEOs so that means you are not good enough to have an opinion right?
No not all the professionals did that. I have watched the previous 6 seasons of high takes poker and such cowardice play didnt happen anytime. You bet a daniel negraneu, gus hansen, phil ivey, tom dwan and partick antonious would never fold such hands.
I'll give you an example from some season that I dont remember but I remember exactly what happened. Eli elezra has AA against sammy farha and one other player. The flop comes J92(or something like that), sammy goes all in he is a short stack. The other guy also moves all in and he has a lil more chips so basically he is raising Eli elezra. Eli calls with his AA and wins the hand. He later says that if anyone of them was a huge stack then he may have folded to which jennifer harman replied that she is NEVER folding that hand in that spot no matter what the stacks.
You guys are all so stuck in the "you have to be a pro to criticize a pro" its just absolutely ridiculous. I take watching poker as a sort of entertainment/sport, do you ever see sports fans telling each other that they cant criticize the teams because they dont play as good? Or perhaps do you ever see someone saying that you cant criticize a movie because you arent a good actor yourself? lol.
Criticise away. I don't have an issue with you criticising them, what I struggle to comprehend is why you start a thread about it?
Yeah I criticise things myself, but I tend to do it in areas where I have enough knowledge to justifiably do so. Or, if I don't have the adequate qualifications/knowledge to do so, I criticise for the purpose of furthering my knowledge and actually learning something.
All this thread does is say "Here look at this, these guys play so bad, effing cowards!"
What is your point?
If you had made the same thread while attempting to analyse their thought process and asking what others thought of their moves and why, then this would actually have some purpose. As it stands though, this thread isn't even criticism - it is simply a bitching session for you because you aren't happy with how someone else plays poker.
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The problem isn't criticising the pros. The problem is criticising them in a situation where the only information you have (their opponent's hand) is biased and irrelevant. It's a situation where the pros have so much more to go on than you do. Do you have any history with these players? Do you have any idea how the game has been going? Are you in on the meta-game of the table? Do you know what happened the very previous hand?
What you see is select snippets and not the whole show. You simply aren't privy to enough information to objectively criticise them here. We could give speculative criticism and have a nice discussion, you don't appear to be interested in that though.