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calibanboy

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In my database I have player who i have played 3000 Short handed rings game hands with. A winning player according to my stats

They have the following stats.

Vol Put in pot = 22%
Aggression Factor Pre flop = 3.3
Aggression Factor Post flop = 2.5
First in Raise =10%
Goes to Showdown = 7%
Showdowns Won = 56%


My questions are:
- How does this player win Money
- How should I play against them?

Any Help is appreciated.........
 
winneronline

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Ok. This player is a semi - loose aggresive player preflop and aggresive postflop. He goes to showdown I d say not too much and when he does he wins 56% which is not much either. Ok, I think he can be up for some money but he doesn't seem pretty solid player to me and the sample is not too big. How to play against him. Try to be in position most of the time so as not having to face very difficult situations. I do not know your style of play but tight-aggresive with positional play will win in the long run.

There is no clear answer in : "- How should I play against them?"

It depends...
 
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Avoid this player. He's not Semi-Loose/Aggressive, he's semi-tight. 22% VP$IP is not particularly high. He waits for good hands, but not always premium and he raises with them. 1/2 the time he raises he opens the pot. The other 1/2 he's probably raising from the button or cutoff, feasting on preflop limpers. Those aggression stats are both high. When he raises preflop, expect him to follow through with a continuation bet on the flop but probably not the turn. The low Showdown % means he's willing to drop a hand when he meets resistance. Considering he only gets there 7% of the time, a 56% win rate is about what you'd expect.

How to play him. Avoid him when you can. When OP, don't limp unless you intend to checkraise him, he looks for weak players. When you raise, you've partially defanged him. He'll probably let you have it. When IP reraise with some of the hands you would normally call with. When he's raising that much it's not always with AK. Beware though of harmless looking flops. They may have connected with his sc's or pp's.
Note: As I said before, he's vulnerable to checkraises and overpairs.

GL
 
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Not sure how he can have a 3.3 preflop aggression factor (high), but " First in Raise" of only 10%... I probably am not understanding what "FiR" is? I agree w 4Ds, 22% gets him in the tight range, and his aggression is good. This is a strong player from the stats we see.
 
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for your responses. As you may have guessed this player is in fact me.

I recently bought Poker office and have decided to track my game, this is my first 3000 hands multitabling 4 tables at 0.25/0.5. The reason for posting was to get some useful insights as to how people view my game and what you can take from that stats. I apologise for any deception.

Poker office comes with some pre-loaded parameters that categorises players. It has me down as Agressive pre flop and neutral Post flog. I have a red flag icon next to me. I assume this is a positive thing.

I normally wait for good hands but will raise with any SC/high PP and on the Button with any above average hand. I will squeeze 3-4 limpers with almost anything. I let my BB go if challenged. Its quite possible I may be quiet for 15 hands but then raise 4 times on the trot. This ensures I get action. I seem to feast on the players with green icons, ( loose players ), who get frustrated with me.

Four Dogs seems to have got my vulnerabilities down to a tee. At the 0.25/0.5 levels its relatively easy to spot the players who have the capability to check raise and table selection makes this key. I often get up from a table after 20 hands if there are no weak players.

Its interesting that you guys are able to pick up my game from my stats, this is something that I need to learn if I am to get the best from the software.

I am used to playing only one table without stats but using observations and player notes, But feel that I need to embrace this technology ( and potentially adapt my multitabling style slightly to mitigate vulnerabilities ) , if I want to multitable at higher levels.

Hence I am going to be cheeky and ask for further help? Can anyone explain the following?

Vol Put in pot = What % isLoose? What % is Tight?

Aggression Factor Pre flop
= how is it calculated?
= What is passive what is aggressive?

Aggression Factor Post flop
= how is it calculated?
= What is passive what is aggressive?

Goes to Showdown
What should I consider when reviewing these stats?

Showdowns Won
what should I consider when reviewing these stats?

Many thanks again for your help and insights.
 
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LOL. I spent all that time analysing those stats and it didn't even occur to me that they might be yours. It should have.

I'm not sure how Poker Office differs from Poker Tracker (what I use) in how those stats are calculated, but in PT, aggression is the ratio (Raise + Bet / Call). A PF agression factor of 3 is way high. Since there's no such thing as a PF bet (you either call the blinds or you raise) it looks as though you almost never limp. Just curious, how do you handle SC's in a multi-way pot?

Vol Put in pot = 22% in PT is written as VP$IP but I'm sure it's calculated the same way. It means exactly what you'd think it does, simply, the % of hands where you buy into the pot. The BB is not included in this stat unless there was a PF raise. If your playing alot of full tables, 9 0r 10 seats, 22% is a good number. 30% is getting a little high, but there are some very good post flop players that can make money all the way up to 40%. Most experts agree that tight aggressive is the most consistently winning style. If you see someone under 10% VP$IP they're being too selective and too easy to read.

Nice thread Caliban. I goota run. Late for the sweatshop.
 
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Thanks Four Dogs, You answers w.r.t VPIP and Aggression have helped a lot and its appreciated. These stats, when looking at other players are only as good as the knowledge you can obtain from them.

You are right that I hardly ever limp, example = in late position in a multiway pot with small PP's, with high implied odds. ( lots of big stacks).

You asked about SC's and how I play them in a multiway pot. Please note that I am only playing Short Handed = maximum number of players is 6 people. Well as with almost almost every poker question, it depends. That said thats a rubbish answer - so....

If I am the first person to enter a pot voluntarily then I will raise with 34s,56s,67s, 78s, 89s, 910s, 10js, jqs, qks, aks, 9js, 10qs, jks, any Axs. If this turns into a multiway pot then and I will assess depending on the flop.

- I may CB if I have hit or partially hit. I then re-asses the situation depending upon players, bet sizes, betting patterns, the turn/river cards etc. In short I will try and win it here and/or minimise pot if resistence occurs.

- If I hit big time I may CB (as I need my bluffs to look the same as when I hit), small bet (to induce raise) or C/R. A lot will do with my table image at that particular time and my participation in the previous 10 or so hands.

- If I miss then a lot will depend upon the flop texture and the players in the pot. I might take a stab, I might not.

- If I am acting later in the sequence to an already Multiway pot full of limpers I will raise circa 3xBB + 1BB for each Limper with 910s or above. Probably call with SC's below.

- If I am acting later in the sequence to an already raised multiway pot I will normally fold unless very high Implied odds and say 10js.

In short If I do not have top pair or better I will drop to resistence after the flop bet. I will try to minimise the pot at one pair or below and try to maximise at 2 pair or above (in general terms). This is Key to me.

I am not saying that this is good advice - just what I do in general terms. I recognise that some of this might be a leak - but a lot depends on the actual situation. I may stray from this depending upon the table/player dynamics.

So has anyone got advice to what I should think about with considering

- Goes to Showdown %
- Showdowns won %

Help is appreciated.
 
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