Harrington on 6 max online cash games/Colin Moshman SNG Strategy

This is my first post, flame me if you must, but hopefully I can add something to the discussion...lol

Looking for the best book on 6max and I've come across these two books, I know one is for cash games and one is for SNG's. At the moment I am looking to play SNG's mostly, I think, until I can get a bigger bankroll (saving small amount every week outside of initial deposit)

Seems they are a few years old, but from what I've read of Harrington before he really is a master of the game and Moshman seems to have done pretty well at SNG's. I am new to poker, have a basic grasp of the game, looking to continually improve. My question is, which way is a better way to improve overall poker skills (realizing there is a difference, not that I can elaborate or anything) between cash games and SNG's)

Would you recommend playing a mix of cash games/sng's or one over the other. Playing with a small amount of money 50-100$ to start. Thanks in advance for your time! Most important for me is improving my skill level each time out, through playing, reading and observing.

Just my quick suggestion but I would reccommend if starting out to get a feel for each to determine which suits you more and then focus on improving your game in your choice.

Remember regardless that good bank roll management is key no matter which you choose to play. It all depends on which you feel will suit you more and remember a good bi rule never hurts. Standard for cash at shortest your looking at 20-30bi minimum (personally 50 is a nice comfortable level to keep you still in the game if you hit a horrible 10+bi loss streak) so 50$ would be 25bi for 2nl which is ok but having 100$ for 50bi would certainly be more comfortable.

Most regular cash grinders will suggest a 20-30bi's, but of course that all depends on your style and skill in the games.

On the sng side of the fence looking at 100bi, 200bi if looking at mtt type games. But if you are decent and play a good tag game then 50bi would be alright for sng's as well IMO, so on stars would be talking min 75$ (on ft they have 50c and up sng's so 25$ min to grind them on a 50bi rule).

Again as mention many times above it will depend on your style, how you do with playing and just remember keep a good BRM and if you are a winning player then over the long haul you will increase your br and move up through the limits.

Happy grinding . Oh on the books, i havn't read many but have always heard great reviews on harrington books for sure. Also note in the forum there is a great free poker book for low limit cash games.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-games-11/polished-poker-vol-i-study-group-227214//

From what I have browsed so far it should be a great read. Also, welcome to the forum you have chosen well as cc is great.

honestly sitngo and good to get experience and increase the bankroll to go to tournaments, I do not game much cash game.

Thanks for your reply guys, appreciate the free book info, will definitely read! I like the suggestion of playing both to see which one suits, without having played them, it would seem to me cash games require more skill because of real money on the line and tournaments, while also requiring skill (I'm sure it's no coincidence that certain players win bracelets and cash often) requires more luck though because the blinds advance forcing you to play, where cash games they stay the same and hand you might be forced to play in tourney you could fold in cash game.

I am currently undertaking a grind on 2NL tables after reading Blackrain's ebook, 'Crushing the Microstakes'.

I actually have 140BIs in my account but I have committed myself to playing 100,000 hands at 2NL before looking at moving up. Some would say this is far too many buyins and that I could move up now, but I want to prove to myself that I can beat the level over 100,000 hands first.

With SnGs, I operate on a 100 Buy In rule. For example, I play $1.50 tournaments until I have $153.50. Then I can play a $3.50 and the rest $1.50. If I go to $157, I can play two $3.50 games etc. If I ever drop below $153.50, I go back to $1.50 games. Once I have over $350, I can play the next level. And so on...

My current roll is $279 from starting point of about $180 so going in the right direction so far.

Was just reading about 'Blackrain' sounds interesting, just downloaded Polished Poker, maybe I will check out 'Crushing Microstakes as well, I am always reading a book.

Like what you are saying about playing 100,000 hands, I feel the same, it's most important for me to improve as a player and move up slowly. I'm sure many people taste a little success and move up too fast only to go bust!

Stupid question when you say 2nl, that's cents not dollars right?

1c/2c

2NL means 100BB = $2 although Stars lets you play 250BB so I always sit down with $5.

What I thought, thanks!

I am sure, Harrington had ghostwriter(s), he is (was) a tournament player, isn´t he ?! He doesn´t play any internet games or any 6-max games or cash games, but i can be wrong. But i am a big fan, his tourney books were my first poker books.

Kid Quid said:

This is my first post, flame me if you must, but hopefully I can add something to the discussion...lol

Looking for the best book on 6max and I've come across these two books, I know one is for cash games and one is for SNG's. At the moment I am looking to play SNG's mostly, I think, until I can get a bigger bankroll (saving small amount every week outside of initial deposit)

Seems they are a few years old, but from what I've read of Harrington before he really is a master of the game and Moshman seems to have done pretty well at SNG's. I am new to poker, have a basic grasp of the game, looking to continually improve. My question is, which way is a better way to improve overall poker skills (realizing there is a difference, not that I can elaborate or anything) between cash games and SNG's)

Would you recommend playing a mix of cash games/sng's or one over the other. Playing with a small amount of money 50-100$ to start. Thanks in advance for your time! Most important for me is improving my skill level each time out, through playing, reading and observing.

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Well Friend to improve your ability, I think it's obvious we have to Put A Practice For if only we get to read books without putting us to Practice Poker, How will we know if our game better? The idea is Entoncez Start with Small Levels To see Since we will go

Daniel72 said:

I am sure, Harrington had ghostwriter(s), he is (was) a tournament player, isn´t he ?! He doesn´t play any internet games or any 6-max games or cash games, but i can be wrong. But i am a big fan, his tourney books were my first poker books.

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He might have had a ghostwriter, but whoever writes his books consistently makes the same grammatical and spelling mistakes throughout all his books. For example, Harrington (or his ghostwriter) always uses "awhile," when it should be "a while," when it is not being used as a modifier.

Harrington's book is a great primer on 6 max. I have read it and it give you a good feel for how to play 6 max.

All of Harrington's books are good IMHO...

Daniel72 said:

I am sure, Harrington had ghostwriter(s), he is (was) a tournament player, isn´t he ?! He doesn´t play any internet games or any 6-max games or cash games, but i can be wrong. But i am a big fan, his tourney books were my first poker books.

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Harrington only played cash games when he started. When he played the world series the year he won it he actually wanted to get his money back before the tourney started because he thought it was going to be a waste of time.

Whilst I have read Harrington on cash and it was imo okay, the book called " The mental game of poker" was one that I found much more useful.

As far as I can tell... Moshman's sng book is for 9 and 10 player sngs only.... Big disappointment, as I play 6s and 4s.... But it is highly rated as a book...

Kid Quid said:

Would you recommend playing a mix of cash games/sng's or one over the other. Playing with a small amount of money 50-100$ to start. .

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first off, welcome

secondly, what i found most important is not necessarily what you play, but how much you spend playing it.

if you plan on playing "professionally" or "semi-pro" you should be spending 1% of your bankroll at most....so 50-100 dollars means 50 cents to 1 dollars per SnG or to sit down at a .01/.02 table with....

thats the best advice i can give..best i got (found)

Benkiu said:

As far as I can tell... Moshman's sng book is for 9 and 10 player sngs only.... Big disappointment, as I play 6s and 4s.... But it is highly rated as a book...

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Moshman Streategy for SNG - book is still topical for new players, many concepts still profitable and for 6max at a distance. So your post without reason..

horizon12 said:

Moshman Streategy for SNG - book is still topical for new players, many concepts still profitable and for 6max at a distance. So your post without reason..

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Well that's good to hear. I haven't got past the first few pages, but got a bit annoyed when I read in the intro "sngs are 9 or 10 player tournaments" when there are of course 6 player sngs etc.

Not sure if you have access to it, if not then I'm no help and I apologize.

Hands down best SnG lessons I ever got were Braminc's SnG Ladder series on cardrunners. He breaks it all down starting at the micros and up from there, touching on general overall strategy, then nuances for each level.

I was smashing SnG's for awhile using his methods, but just like the cash games more.