GRRRRR What do you do about huge raises preflop in Omaha?

sammyfive

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Why do so many people the pot so big before the flop even comes? It is so annoying and just zaps any post flop play. It is my understanding that Omaha is a game that focuses on the turn and the river, and so a lot of betting is done on those streets.
I am so turned off by micro stakes Omaha I think i'm just gonna not play it all together.
 
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Blame Holdem. They just do not transition properly from holdem to omaha and thus they think hands like AK73s is a good hand. Just play your normal game, less speculation with marginal hands and you would be good.
 
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I don't feel bad getting a lot in preflop when I have a strong hand that is likely to have an edge, even a small one. Raising and reraising preflop gets players with marginal hands out, increasing the chances that your hand will hold up and/or be best after the flop.
 
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I had this same thought when I first started Omaha. I raised preflop as I do in hold em.But as I read up and studied it it really is a completely different game. I got beat enough thinkin my set was good and figured it out. Just use it to your advantage when you have a monster. Let them lose their money and they'll be back to hold em soon enough.
 
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idk in Omaha high i don't see so many preflop raises their is a lot of pot limit Omaha but considering u have 2 more cards u usually think u have the best hand i suggest going into limit Omaha or play some horse that way they can't bet u off all the time but if u go into horse u need to learn all the other games
 
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i tend not to play too many hands in omaha especially if ther's a pot raise before me. only time i stick aroung is i have pairs or suited ace or suited kings. trick to omaha is play few hands and make them big pots and try to only go with the nuts or close to it.:D
 
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I will raise pre flop with a good hand in plo and h/l to isolate and keep speculation to a min. You want to play great starting hands as in every card game. The ones who get mad at a raise are playing crap and just want to get a free bingo card.
 
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I completely understand where you are coming from. I am mainly a holdem player so I had the same experience a while back when I got into omaha. I was wondering how people could raise almost every hand with crap, and then when I finally call them, they get lucky with a low straight or something of that matter.

The key to omaha is to play dominating hands. If you are going for a flush, make sure it is A or K high. Also, what has worked for me is focus on playing the board more than those four cards in your hand. You can still only use two cards, so without any help from the board, someone with a big raise may be hanging onto just a single pair. Play that board and pick your spots and omaha could work out for you
 
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I think it has to do with me playing the lowest stakes omaha, but even then it seems like the players should at least know how to play omaha correctly.
I just started trying to play more stud, and I like it. Players there are also bad, but it is easier to take advantage of in my opinion.
 
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Omaha is different than most games. Most say that in holdem, aggression wins pots most often because its hard to make a superior hand.

I dont advice this in omaha, well in heads up omaha you raise pretty much 100% of buttons but in 6max, no pls.

In 6 max omaha cash games you are looking to make nut nut. Basically nut flushes and high straights. You can achieve this by opening with a solid range of hands, so it is smart to not open with low cards, low 2 suited, small pairs, those are really - ev hands. You will lose the most money drawing to weak flushes and low straights and low sets. But like holdem, omaha depends on the opponent as well, if you have a villian opening 80% of his range every hand then there is a good chance a 9 high flush is perfectly fine against him. Against a tigher player who is opening 20% of pots a 9 high flush might be... not so sweet.

Another thing is trips/2 pair/set type hands. Ok, well.... you want to make top set, or middle set is ok sometimes, again it depends on your opponents opening range. 2 pair is in general not a strong omaha hand, its fckin amazing if you fill up, if you dont fill its often going to get outdrawn if you do not end the hand as soon as possible. If you are playing a multiway pot with 2 pair they are going to have so many outs to beat you unless you get very lucky/fill you are toast.

Aiming to make very good hands in omaha is generally the right strategy, as winning is often about getting people to get all their money in with an inferior draw or a smaller set/2pair.
 
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It is funny how some players will raise a lot preflop. It isn't the same as holdem, betting preflop you can get small cards out. In omaha it is a lot different, I as a rule don't raise until at least after the flop. Like you say it is better to wait and bet after the turn. Preflop you don't know if your low is any good.
 
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