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I don't know if you guys have been reading CC blogger Justin Buchanan's columns on common mistakes made by poker players, but he's got some good advice in there. However, I have to admit I don't agree with his item No. 5 on his latest post, Folding to a min bet on the river.

Justin says you should always call a min bet on the river even if you know you're beat just to get the information on your opponent. I think that is another decision that largely depends on circumstance (plus, how many times do you ever see a min-bet on the river?). If you're nearing the bubble of an MTT and you're down to 20 or so BBs, I would not throw chips away just to see what my opponent is holding. If I have an 8-9 suited pocket and flopped a flush and open-ended straight draw and ended up missing everything, well I'm just not throwing chips away just to see what my opponent had.

If it's a $1/$2 cash game and there's $30 in the pot, then yea I probably would call just to see what he had.

But otherwise you can have the intelligence and I'll keep my chips.
 
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I don't know if you guys have been reading CC blogger Justin Buchanan's columns on common mistakes made by poker players, but he's got some good advice in there. However, I have to admit I don't agree with his item No. 5 on his latest post, Folding to a min bet on the river.

Justin says you should always call a min bet on the river even if you know you're beat just to get the information on your opponent. I think that is another decision that largely depends on circumstance (plus, how many times do you ever see a min-bet on the river?). If you're nearing the bubble of an MTT and you're down to 20 or so BBs, I would not throw chips away just to see what my opponent is holding. If I have an 8-9 suited pocket and flopped a flush and open-ended straight draw and ended up missing everything, well I'm just not throwing chips away just to see what my opponent had.

If it's a $1/$2 cash game and there's $30 in the pot, then yea I probably would call just to see what he had.

But otherwise you can have the intelligence and I'll keep my chips.

I actually see min river bets more often than you'd think in early stages. Although I'm a little annoyed that you've placed any of my advice at all under the lens of absolutes. Poker is a game of anything and everything BUT absolutes. Also, I could swear I mentioned in the previous two parts a disclaiming of the idea anyway, saying that of course there are circumstances that arise that either force you to make the mistakes or render it so they're not actually mistakes. Maybe not so thoroughly, but the idea came across. Am I expected to repeat the same disclaimer throughout the list? Perhaps you'd like it if I ended every single blog post I make with such a disclaimer? "Largely depends on circumstances" applies to virtually ANY advice that could possibly be given on poker!

What prompted that item in the first place was seeing people not only min bet the river, but min bet the river AFTER they'd made much bigger bets in the hand before that point! And then I'd see the other guy in the hand fold to it! The fact that this was a thing that even could possibly happen made me WTF way too much to not mention it here. I guess I figured people would have a good enough idea of what I was actually talking about without explicitly mentioning those details. Clearly on that count I was wrong.

Besides, the Aces Full of It blog is first and foremost for ENTERTAINMENT purposes. I'm not going to claim anything anywhere NEAR to the effect of "if you do this, you'll win" or "if you don't do this, you'll lose" and be freaking serious about it! I mean, it's not like I have any damn right at all to do that--just look at all those awesome victory results I DON'T have! Gimme a break.
 
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Then one of your next tips should be, "Don't min-bet the river!"
 
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My dear McGee, why would I advocate for people to stop making dumb bets? People making dumb bets is one of the best ways for people who DON'T make dumb bets to make money!

At the very least, if I do give that "tip" it's not gonna be on this list. Might address it at some point later.
 
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