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Daleyboy1234

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Last week i decided to play live in the casino partly because my flat mates have moved out for summer and we had our net cut off for not paying das billage. so i went to grovesnor casino and played in their nightly tourny, didnt do too well finished 18th out of 30. i decided to play a cash table and managed to get my buyin back before leaving.

i had just about broke even but i was loving this new form of poker.
playing with chips and chatting to real people was great.

i went back two nights later and played at a cash table for 7 hours, i finished £10 up but again had great banter and found my self learning stuff. i also found myself being told off less for not putting my blinds in lol.
i left at 6am and crashed out.

i went back to the casino the next day for a freeroll which comprised of 3 heats of 120 players with the top 20 going through to the final. i managed to qualify but was almost bubble boy when i was covered by the big bling all in but everyone folded round to me only for after that there to be a chip count and another guy on my table to be eliminted.

i played in the 60 man final and managed to finish 15th.
for my efforts i recieved my £20 buy in to the main saturday tournament.
however i got stuck in london and never made it back for the tournament so my efforts were in vein :(

I have enjoyed my recent transition into live poker and will be playing again sooner rather than later.

can any body reccomend any tactics for live play that i may need to adopt
 
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read mike caro's poker tell book.
 
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read mike caro's poker tell book.

QFT

Everytime I see a tell in live play I recognized from the book, it makes me go back and read it again.

Definitely a worthy investment.
 
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Carefull with mike's book. It's been around a long time and people will give false tells, but it is a good book to read.

Good luck on the felts-the real felts!
 
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i still need to buy this book and use the tells against ppl. But it's easy to tell that play at my local casino if jus straight fwd poker, jus gotta catch the cards lol.
 
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Gratz on your transition and the best of luck to you!
1. Tourney play and Cash play are 2 different beasts! Do NOT play the same in the tourney as you would at the cash table and vice versa. Cash play live is much looser than the tourney play, you can buy back in at cash if you bust out. Pick up Harrington's on Hold 'Em series.
2. Get Mike Caro's book like others have suggested. There is also a thread on here from a few months back that speaks about live tells, if you can find it in the advanced search it's worth a read.
3. Shake up your play, if you become a regular you'll soon be playing with the same people and as nice as they will be to you, they are watching you and your play very closely and the regulars are telling each other all about you, your style and your tells. If you are new to live, you do have tells, you just don't know it.
4. Be OBSERVANT - don't allow conversation to distract you while others are in a hand. I hope I don't have to say to stop your conversation while you are in a hand but if you are, do and pay attention. Also, stop your conversation with another if he/she gets into a hand.
5. Don't question others plays so much while new, and while at the table, do it at the bar area or lounge area while on a break or whatever. At the table it will only show how much you don't know, what it is you are and are not willing to do.
6. Keep a journal of your tourneys and cash play. Your wins and losses, hands, the regulars at the tables, notes on them like you would online, etc; This will help.
 
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Caro's book of tells is available to read st Scribd if you want to read it straight away. Also, the film version is on YouTube.
 
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Gratz on your transition and the best of luck to you!
1. Tourney play and Cash play are 2 different beasts! Do NOT play the same in the tourney as you would at the cash table and vice versa. Cash play live is much looser than the tourney play, you can buy back in at cash if you bust out. Pick up Harrington's on Hold 'Em series.
2. Get Mike Caro's book like others have suggested. There is also a thread on here from a few months back that speaks about live tells, if you can find it in the advanced search it's worth a read.
3. Shake up your play, if you become a regular you'll soon be playing with the same people and as nice as they will be to you, they are watching you and your play very closely and the regulars are telling each other all about you, your style and your tells. If you are new to live, you do have tells, you just don't know it.
4. Be OBSERVANT - don't allow conversation to distract you while others are in a hand. I hope I don't have to say to stop your conversation while you are in a hand but if you are, do and pay attention. Also, stop your conversation with another if he/she gets into a hand.
5. Don't question others plays so much while new, and while at the table, do it at the bar area or lounge area while on a break or whatever. At the table it will only show how much you don't know, what it is you are and are not willing to do.
6. Keep a journal of your tourneys and cash play. Your wins and losses, hands, the regulars at the tables, notes on them like you would online, etc; This will help.

Very sound advice^^ just don't listen to storms tipping advice but all this is good.
 
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Very sound advice^^ just don't listen to storms tipping advice but all this is good.
LMAO! I just posted again about that, I'm re-thinking the whole thing. Going to experiment around with lower tips this coming week.
 
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Live poker is the best poker ever. It is much better than sitting behind screens. I still remember the day when I started with 20 dollars and made it into over 600 my first day in casino because I was running hot. I dont' know about your city but in California, my state in US, there are lot of loose players who play wrecklessly and lot of gamblers. Lot are social workers, school teachers, etc. Playing online gives you lot of advantage compared to those people because you played more hands than them and you're used to facing every type of situation. Only downfall to live poker is rake and tipping. Rake is very high compared to online and every big pot you win, you have to tip.
 
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My suggestions:

1 - Skip Caro's Book of Tells and get Navarro's Read 'em and Reap instead.

I can't emphasise this one strongly enough - if you're going to spend money on a tells book, Navarro is a bajillion times better than Caro, especially if your main game is casino NLHE. The pictures are better, the explanations are better and the science is a lot better. Plus it doesn't waste time crapping on about draw poker home games.

Serious question: how many of the people who are recommending Caro have read both and are still recommending it over Navarro?

2 - Familiarise yourself with all the rules of live poker

This post might be handy:

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/learning-poker-57/playing-live-what-you-need-know-114205/

3 - For the most part, skip the tournaments and stick to cash games

Casino tournaments, especially ones with low buy ins, are notoroius for having terrible structures where the blinds go up super-fast.

If you find some where the opponents are seriously terrible or luck out and find one with a really good structure then by all means go for it. But for the most part, you'll be a lot better off (and spend a lot less time pulling your hair out) at the cash tables.
 
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