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Almost a year into my poker journey and I might finally be getting burnt out. I love playing the game a ton, but for the first time in my life (and I really never have felt this way about anything, I’m just not a paranoid person) I feel like the odds are stacked against me. Get it in with the best hand? Lose. Make a great bluff? Get called by top pair no kicker. Finally get a big hand 2 hours into a tourney? Get no action.

I only have about a 200 dollar bankroll after about 11 months and am not sure whether to take a break or keep going. I feel like I’ve got all this training under my belt now and nothing to do with it. I mean I’ve probably played 3000 hours of online poker and nothing to show for it. Maybe I’m just bad? I’m not sure. This post is just a manifestation of my frustration. It sounds whiny, I know, but I just had to make it. My whole goal with playing online poker was to make enough money to play live poker consistently, but I’m still not there yet and the pursuit has taken so much energy. I love playing poker and don’t want to give it up but it might be time to move on.
 
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When the results are out of your control it is easy to become frustrated (especially if making the right decisions don't pay off the way they should most of the time).

Even the best players go through periods when nothing seems to go their way.

It definitely sounds like a break is in order. Take some time away from the tables to analyze your play (if you aren't using PokerTracker or something similar you should be able to at least find some hand histories).

Start posting hands where you are unsure or where you lost and think you made a mistake... Take advantage of others' experience to help you improve.

Good luck!
 
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Just gamble on Jackpot SNG AKA Spin N Gos
 
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This is terrible advice lol. Jackpot SNGs are high variance
 
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All players have a moment when they fall into the domination or they are moved by an opponent with a weak hand, this time you need to wait and look at your game at a distance. If you have other problems in the game, then you need to disassemble the game using poker calculators and spend more time learning!
 
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You expect a lot after only one year. A $200 bankroll in the USA currently is good in my opinion. Maybe you're being to hard on yourself.
 
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You have a few decisions here. 1st of all, maybe you just need to take a break from the game? Try not to play poker for sometime, maybe this will help.
Also maybe a good decision is to try finally play some live games? Not sure, but i think you can play some live poker, even with 200$. Online poker and live poker is too different games, maybe your bad luck will finally ends in some live poker games.
 
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Poker is a game of odds, you can't expect to win every time when you're ahead. You will have bad beats, you can't escape it. The difference with you and pro players is the fact that they've been playing the games for years and have learnt to adapt with how the game actually works.. If the game frustrates you maybe poker isn't for you or you're taking it too seriously. I assume with a $200 BR that poker is just a hobby, if yes then treat it like a hobby and have fun with the ups and lows that you will face in your poker career!
 
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Almost a year into my poker journey and I might finally be getting burnt out. I love playing the game a ton, but for the first time in my life (and I really never have felt this way about anything, I’m just not a paranoid person) I feel like the odds are stacked against me. Get it in with the best hand? Lose. Make a great bluff? Get called by top pair no kicker. Finally get a big hand 2 hours into a tourney? Get no action.

I only have about a 200 dollar bankroll after about 11 months and am not sure whether to take a break or keep going. I feel like I’ve got all this training under my belt now and nothing to do with it. I mean I’ve probably played 3000 hours of online poker and nothing to show for it. Maybe I’m just bad? I’m not sure. This post is just a manifestation of my frustration. It sounds whiny, I know, but I just had to make it. My whole goal with playing online poker was to make enough money to play live poker consistently, but I’m still not there yet and the pursuit has taken so much energy. I love playing poker and don’t want to give it up but it might be time to move on.
I'm sure you've both: not played anywhere near enough volume for your results to be significant, nor studied enough for you to have a significant enough skill edge.

Poker is hard, and it gives back what you put into it.

Gotta work hard on your game if you want to do well.
 
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You cant have this attitude, even if youre playing well, you have to keep trying to improve. If its really just run bad, it will correct itself eventually.
 
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Almost a year into my poker journey and I might finally be getting burnt out. I love playing the game a ton, but for the first time in my life (and I really never have felt this way about anything, I’m just not a paranoid person) I feel like the odds are stacked against me. Get it in with the best hand? Lose. Make a great bluff? Get called by top pair no kicker. Finally get a big hand 2 hours into a tourney? Get no action.

I only have about a 200 dollar bankroll after about 11 months and am not sure whether to take a break or keep going. I feel like I’ve got all this training under my belt now and nothing to do with it. I mean I’ve probably played 3000 hours of online poker and nothing to show for it. Maybe I’m just bad? I’m not sure. This post is just a manifestation of my frustration. It sounds whiny, I know, but I just had to make it. My whole goal with playing online poker was to make enough money to play live poker consistently, but I’m still not there yet and the pursuit has taken so much energy. I love playing poker and don’t want to give it up but it might be time to move on.

Without reading the replies...
I say step back, don't play as much, don't take it so seriously... you'll be surprised.

Also, online poker is much harder than live poker. Live poker has many more fish...
 
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Without reading the replies...

I say step back, don't play as much, don't take it so seriously... you'll be surprised.



Also, online poker is much harder than live poker. Live poker has many more fish...



Agreed. When I’ve played $70 live tournaments everyone is just messing around, whereas you can play a $1 sit and go online and it’s life and death for every player.
 
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It is always good to take a break when you are not 100% into it mentally or emotionally. Game can wear you down. We all know that the results are not indicative of the play. We accept that but it is not that easy sometimes to move forward with a clear conscience.

Come back to the game when you feel you are ready for the ups and downs.
 
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poker online has completely morphed from a place where solid and good players were able to make some serious money to a place that resembles 1800’s Wild Wild WEST.
I have been playing online since 2005 with over 2 million hands and counting behind me, and I can personally state that the amount of seriously ridicules bad beats have risen exponentially over the years........ [IMHO].
Give yourself a break from online for a bit and instead try buying into a real live tournament at your local casino, the change in menu is quite amazing if I have to say so myself.
 
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Don’t be frustrated, poker is that way and happens to many of us.
Perhaps your expectations from On line poker are too optimistic, for me Poker is only an Entertainment If I win nice, IF I lose Ok, I take it as an investment on my entertainment.
In fact I win more and more often in Live Poker than On line; Not the other way. :ciao:
 
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look, there is not a year that I play poker, but I have a few months and I see that poker is trickster, sometimes the advantage that nude is given in the hands is our ruin
 
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About three times in about my ten year playing "career" have I taken extended breaks from poker. About 3 months each time. Each time I have been on a downswing(40 BB downswing has been my biggest loss) or just no longer having fun playing. And usually each time I return things get better.

I think extended breaks are very good, it avoids burnout, gives you time to focus on other things, reminds yourself of why you play (enjoying certain activites etc...), and gives you a fresh mind and allows you to look at poker from a different perspective when back (also helps for strategy imo).

This isn't 2004 anymore where the cash comes easy from poker. There are hundreds of thousands of great poker players throughout the live and online community these days. It's very tough to be a winning player a lot of the times now.
 
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I agree with those that said live poker is better than online poker. It seems like at some point online poker folks up their knowledge and act less like fish. So the game gets harder. You should see the play during a $1 nine player sit-n-go game. It lasts forever, because everyone is being so careful. There isn't one fish or loose player at the table.

I remember playing ring tables on one site and it was so hard to find a table with some fish or some real action going. Can you imagine sitting there for nearly an hour and hardly anyone is playing, and when they do you experience bad beats that you just can't avoid.

I say save the money you need to start playing live poker and don't take online poker too seriously.
 
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Try to go through additional training so that you can improve your skills in the game even better, or play many inexpensive tournaments or freerolls to gain more experience, then you need to go to good expensive tournaments and try to win good prize money!
 
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I've been in your situation and I know how you feel. Better stop playing and gather your thoughts. Frustration and poker can not go hand in hand and expect to win, there is no way to get it! I played regularly / every day with real money poker online, I was chance to win. And at the moment I thought. I'm a very good player, it turned out very quickly, that I was not as good a player as I thought. I lost every coin! No one is not insured by a bad series. Review your mistakes (there are always mistakes, though insignificant are mistakes). As you yourself said, go ahead.

Success ,all of best!
 
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Welcome to that point we all get to in the beginning - the mental block.

Ryan said it best I think up above (aka Protential). Study and put the time in to work through your game, analyse where you've lost big pots and determine was it pure variance (i.e. you were 95% ahead but they hit their two outer) or, are you making mistakes (i.e. not playing your hands properly and allowing the villian the correct odds to continue). Even more, are you mis-reading your opponents and determining you're ahead when you're not?

Ryan would know - he's only one a ton of tournaments and has a wsop bracelet...

Don't be discouraged. One hand in thousands of hands playing doesn't constitute the odds against you - one hand is a blip. Treat it like that, learn to put it behind you quick and move on to the next hand.

Why don't you post hands that have gone awry and let the collaboration of this community help?
 
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Almost a year into my poker journey and I might finally be getting burnt out. I love playing the game a ton, but for the first time in my life (and I really never have felt this way about anything, I’m just not a paranoid person) I feel like the odds are stacked against me. Get it in with the best hand? Lose. Make a great bluff? Get called by top pair no kicker. Finally get a big hand 2 hours into a tourney? Get no action.

I only have about a 200 dollar bankroll after about 11 months and am not sure whether to take a break or keep going. I feel like I’ve got all this training under my belt now and nothing to do with it. I mean I’ve probably played 3000 hours of online poker and nothing to show for it. Maybe I’m just bad? I’m not sure. This post is just a manifestation of my frustration. It sounds whiny, I know, but I just had to make it. My whole goal with playing online poker was to make enough money to play live poker consistently, but I’m still not there yet and the pursuit has taken so much energy. I love playing poker and don’t want to give it up but it might be time to move on.

I'm sure you've both: not played anywhere near enough volume for your results to be significant, nor studied enough for you to have a significant enough skill edge.

Poker is hard, and it gives back what you put into it.

Gotta work hard on your game if you want to do well.


Protential's post speaks volumes. It's not meant to be critical, but it's the truth for anyone in much the same position as yourself.

You are probably not a bad player, but honestly, Protential's advice right there, is food for thought.

Also, CRstals has a good idea, too. CardsChat is a great place to discuss hands etc., if you want to. :)


'Believe in yourself'.
 
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If you feel like this you should take some rest to clear your mind (at least several days) and after that analyze your game carefully and see where your errors are (we all make errors even pros). After that make changes to your game and see how it goes. If you do not want to spend money you can use freerolls to test your new skills before using them in real game. Do not give up. Try to find your mistakes and fix them instead. Good luck. :)
 
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I just play recreational poker, but like anything worthwhile, job,fun, and life itself patience is the hardest part.Study ,breaks away, and observing and listening to the experts pays huge dividends in all that we do. good luck I think thats required too!
 
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