Flopped boat; well played, sir.

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pokerstars Game #24877500381: Tournament #139360487, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/02/12 18:33:47 PT [2009/02/12 21:33:47 ET]
Table '139360487 189' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: TABLOID35 (7045 in chips)
Seat 2: LegionODoom (3835 in chips)
Seat 3: AlphaBeast (2520 in chips)
Seat 4: ccbmbm (2025 in chips)
Seat 5: TRM_SHRiMP (2730 in chips)
Seat 6: blueflame222 (2845 in chips)
AlphaBeast: posts small blind 15
ccbmbm: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TRM_SHRiMP [Ad Ts]
TRM_SHRiMP: raises 90 to 120
blueflame222: folds
TABLOID35 has timed out
TABLOID35: folds
TABLOID35 is sitting out
LegionODoom: folds
AlphaBeast: calls 105
ccbmbm: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [Kh Kd Jh]
AlphaBeast: checks
ccbmbm: bets 90
TRM_SHRiMP: raises 120 to 210
...Small raise to see where I was at in the hand. If raised, I'm out. If they have a J or just a draw, they're probably just going to call or fold, and then check turn if it doesn't hit allowing me to see a cheap river to catch a Q or an A. If they have a K, they might slow play and again let me see a cheap river. But if they bet, I have position and can easily fold.
AlphaBeast: calls 210
ccbmbm: calls 120
*** TURN *** [Kh Kd Jh] [8h]
AlphaBeast: checks
ccbmbm: checks
TRM_SHRiMP: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kh Kd Jh 8h] [2h]
AlphaBeast: checks
ccbmbm: checks
TRM_SHRiMP: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AlphaBeast: shows [Jd Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Jacks)
ccbmbm: mucks hand
TRM_SHRiMP: mucks hand
AlphaBeast collected 990 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 990 | Rake 0
Board [Kh Kd Jh 8h 2h]
Seat 1: TABLOID35 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: LegionODoom (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: AlphaBeast (small blind) showed [Jd Ks] and won (990) with a full house, Kings full of Jacks
Seat 4: ccbmbm (big blind) mucked [Js Tc]
Seat 5: TRM_SHRiMP mucked [Ad Ts]
Seat 6: blueflame222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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he had a monster and he had to check to be able to get any more money in the pot. if he put one of u on a jack tho, he might have gotten a call if he bet about 300-400 on the river.
 
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Did you not notice the 3rd heart on the river? He put you and/or ccbmbm on a flush draw and was hoping one of you would bet on the end.
 
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It's not that bad to check the nuts. Sometimes you gotta let your opponent bluff to win some more. If he had bet on the river you would probably fold, but if he checks you might try to bluff at it.
 
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Don't you understand that he lost so much value by checking the turn and the river? Though, I can see checking the turn in hopes to get someone to bet and then maybe raising. He's more likely to get callers since there is more money in the pot. ...But checking the river when first to act in hopes of your opponent bets is just bad.
 
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Looks like he may have pulled a Jen Tilly there, roflz.
 
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I think he did lose a lot, I've made this play a hundred times when hitting the nuts and not getting payed off, it seems when I value bet it, it makes me more money. Especially when flopping the nuts.
 
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n1 its good 2 flop the nuts and check it 2 see if u get any 1 trying 2 bluff ya or atleast bet the blind 2 see if any 1 hits the 3of a kind :)
 
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no he did lose equity on it by not small betting the turn if some had gone in with him he probably would of got more on the river to waste the turn and the river with that kind of a hand just my opinion
 
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