Experiences with Stoxpoker/Cardrunners?

Perhaps this topic has been discussed ad nauseum, but is it worth the money? This is for someone interested in playing primarily 50NL-100NL rolled and 4 tabling. Any experiences/advice would be appreciated.

I think cardrunners is pretty solid, but I don't pay for it. Full Tilt has (or had, I'm not sure) a deal where if you earn enough FPP you get it for free one month at a time. Jesus, I always do that, FTP's at Full Tilt, whatever.

You looking for FR, 6max, or HU?

This is their guy I liked for 100nl FR, Sixpeppers:


This was the heads up guy, MasterLJ


6max was tricky, it seemed like a lot of them weren't so good at 6max actually. Verneer definitely seemed to know what he spoke of, so I checked out some of his stuff. His graph is misrepresentative however, as most of his winnings are from 100nl HU. He's still a 4.00BB/100 player over 60k hands at 100nl 6max though.

DamianDelPiero said:

Perhaps this topic has been discussed ad nauseum, but is it worth the money? This is for someone interested in playing primarily 50NL-100NL rolled and 4 tabling. Any experiences/advice would be appreciated.

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I really like Stox. Tons of videos and a cool forum.

I used 13500 FTP points to pay for 3 months membership. I've only had to pay for my 1st month. I'll be saving points to get another 3 months soon.

Deucescracked and Leggo are my favs, but I've heard good things about CR and Stox

whats the difference between the two? i got enough FTPs for 6 months of one or 3 months of ther other. but dont know anything about either.

If you play at FT sign up at http://www.trulyfreepokertraining.com/ . Free Stox and/or CR. Cost to you is nothing.

WVHillbilly said:

If you play at FT sign up at http://www.trulyfreepokertraining.com/ . Free Stox and/or CR. Cost to you is nothing.

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i checked them both out. here's the thing i dont earn enough FTPs for both. after watching the sample videos i don't think getting both at once is very smart. as don't think i will have time to use both and still play poker. what i'm looking for is mainly micro's stakes single table SnGs mostly. as well as micro FR games. of the 2 which would you recomend. and do you know the least amount you can earn. could you earn a day or is it a week minimum?

cardplayer52 said:

i checked them both out. here's the thing i dont earn enough FTPs for both. after watching the sample videos i don't think getting both at once is very smart. as don't think i will have time to use both and still play poker. what i'm looking for is mainly micro's stakes single table SnGs mostly. as well as micro FR games. of the 2 which would you recomend. and do you know the least amount you can earn. could you earn a day or is it a week minimum?

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Between the 2, I'd say Stox has the most micro stakes content and they have Colin Moshman for SnGs. I think a week is the min. but I'm not certain. I don't know how many points you get but a week of Stox would mean you need to earn 750 point in a month.

As far as making time to watch videos, I take a day each week to watch vids instead of playing poker that day. Gives me a little break from playing and gives me the study time I need.

If you play stud games, stox is definitely the place to be. For example, 2 of the 3 stud instructors there went deep in wsop Razz tourney (one 5th and one around 15th -- the other wasn't able to play) and crush the cash and MTTs for the stud games. 1st hand I can assure you that you will greatly profit from their vids and forums for the stud games if you apply yourself.

The hold 'em vids are fine, too.

thanks, I checked them both out again and with your input as well. I decided stox is what i will be doing. i got enough FTPs and I will buy Colin Moshman's SnG book. I watched his sample video last night I liked it and definately cant wait to read this book now.

Signing up with any training site could only help your game. Cardrunners is a good choice.

Thanks for the responses, they were very informative. I intend to multiquote and ask/answer additional questions from select replyers tomorrow, time willing.

I just joined Stox today, am pretty excited to watch a lot of these vids. Forum isn't too active though