Ever wonder if online poker is rigged? I hope this eases your mind, IT’S NOT!

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So, I’m plinking around Youtube, watching some poker vids, and I come across this series about how poker stars and other sites are “caught cheating”. Unable to resist, I decide to check it out. Wow, talk about conspiracy theories! For one thing, this fellow needs to get a clue. He is a “lone crusader in exposing the corruption of online poker rooms”. No, he is “A lone moron without a clue”.

So, he hand picks certain examples from numerous games (which is suspicious “proof”, isn’t it?). Well, if it’s sooo rampant and organized, he should be able to show dozens of hands in a row of these “bad beats” and hero calls, all in one game! But, no, he has to string together several from several different games.

The funny part is, he talks about things like, how he “knows” he has to lay down his top pair because “there is a possible flush, and I just know someone will get it”. What was your first clue - 3 others still in the hand after all the flop betting? What the heck else could they have? Sure enough, one guy bets a small flush with a made straight into a bigger flush, and “it’s easy to see how they coddle these weak players”. LMAO! He makes a good lay down and doesn’t even know why he did it! He does this over and over, and correctly makes reads on boards, but thinks he’s able to be a Nostradamus and should not be. What a laugh. He didn’t seem to understand the ability of some to make a good read based on action and the cards on the board. And, if he is so certain it’s rigged, then WHY KEEP PLAYING AND DEPOSITING MONEY?!? Doh!

Next he shows some suck outs of horrible all in preflop hands and shows stats on the players who made them. Needless to say, their stats show them as fish, no duh again - call 2 all in preflop shoves with J8 off? You really are a fish. But they suck out to a straight, and “It’s rigged! It’s rigged!” Well, if it really is rigged, and they are always sucking out with horrible calls, WOULD THEY NOT HAVE BETTER STATS? Yes, of course they would!

The following logic also escapes this fellow: How would rigging cash games or non-free MTT’s profit the online site? They only make money on rake, so would they not make more by keeping more people in the game? If one guy gets wiped out, no more rake from him. And as far as free games, so what if they win 13.50? Are they going to cash out thirteen dollars and fifty friggin cents? OF COURSE NOT! It will go back to the site, most likely. So, if you ever thought it might be rigged online, now you know it most likely is not and why. At least, not at the levels we play in. Why cheat for pennies when you could for thousands or more? Just don’t tell that guy. You never want to wise up a sucker, ROFLMAO.

(Goto youtube and search “poker stars is rigged” and look for “magic612” for a good laugh - he even went all out making a logo like theirs, only showing a villain, it’s so funny yet at the same time kind of sad);) :confused:
 
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That guy is absolutely hilarious. "pokerstars Stepchild" or whatever it's called is probably one of the funniest rigged poker videos ever. It's really hard to tell if he's serious or not though.
 
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Oh, he is serious alright.

He recently posted an update video for his dozen of admiring fans. He explained how he had been on carbon, only to get kicked off for "colluding"; Said they did it because he would fold AK (LMAO) preflop at the first sign of ANY big bets. So, they have yet to refund his $1500.00 (That's right, he deposited money on a "rigged" site, once again!) Detect a pattern here?

No proof, of course, and no explanation how he got "caught". (Trust me, dozens of players would have to see him fold AK suited several times and complain over and over and even then) So, he showed another video of this and simply put, he plays scared. Or really is a cheater. There were 2 all ins ahead of him, and so he folded AK suited. OF COURSE, a guy with A-rag of diamonds and another w 10-10 had shoved and the guy with tens flopped a set. "But look at those 2 diamonds - Just what I expected!" Said he folded because "we were close to the bubble". And, of course, he relies heavily on tracking software, had the whole merge package overlayed on the game table, lol. If you watch the "Big game", there was once a guy in almost the same situation, only w AA. Sure enough, one player with J-rag or some garbage flopped a set, however, If THE GUY W AA HAD RAISED OR GONE ALL IN, THE PRO WITH GARBAGE WOULD HAVE FOLDED. An example of a live game being rigged?

Wouldn't you think that this pickle head would not A: Deposit at a rigged site; B: Install the additional tracking software of said rigged site, and C: Then complain about it only after they bounce you off. I guess it only became clear to him this site was rigged AFTER he was kicked off.

Fool whines more than Phil Helmuth! He just cannot believe his hand cannot win EVERY TIME HE PLAYS IT! OMG, my AK didn't win! Rigged! Rigged!ROFLMAO:albertein
 
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The only way I would believe poker software at a specific site is 100% legit, is if the software itself was regulated and enforced by a trustworthy government entity (ie: all poker sites were forced to use the same code for dealing cards which was inaccessible to them and only the interface and types of games could be programmed to fit a site's desired player experience (or something to that effect)).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming any site is in fact rigged, but there is no way to know for sure that there isn't something fishy going on deep within their code. People shouldn't claim that online poker is for sure rigged or not-rigged because the simple fact is, there is no way to be completely sure. It's freaking programmed unregulated software for crying out loud! You either choose to play and employ blind faith that everything's legit, or don't play...it's pretty simple.
 
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A trustworthy Government entity?

The only way I would believe poker software at a specific site is 100% legit, is if the software itself was regulated and enforced by a trustworthy government entity (ie: all poker sites were forced to use the same code for dealing cards which was inaccessible to them and only the interface and types of games could be programmed to fit a site's desired player experience (or something to that effect)).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming any site is in fact rigged, but there is no way to know for sure that there isn't something fishy going on deep within their code. People shouldn't claim that online poker is for sure rigged or not-rigged because the simple fact is, there is no way to be completely sure. It's freaking programmed unregulated software for crying out loud! You either choose to play and employ blind faith that everything's legit, or don't play...it's pretty simple.

A trustworthy Government entity? A trustworthy Government entity? No offense; where would you find one of those? America, maybe? Oh, yes, look at the fabulous job they have done regulating:
The housing market
The savings and loan industry
The environment
The board of edumacation
The department of (fill in the blank).

ROFL!!!!!

Frankly, If they ever do closely regulate the hands we get in a poker game, that will be the time to only play live!

A trustworthy Government entity...dude, you crack me up. God, I hope your not serious. That's hilarious. I wouldn't trust those nimrods to regulate a rock collection.
 
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Sniffers provide feedback on rigging. If people are losing 60% of the time w/ AA, word gets around, like at this site, and it will destroy the site in time.
 
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Hey Michael, I dont think I have read anything from you at CC till I saw this.

Thank you for posting. It is sad that people like the guy you spoke of in your OP actually get people believing their conspiracy crap. It is a breath of fresh air to read posts like yours!!!!
 
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The only reason y so many of us think that it is rigged, is because we see like 7X as many hands as u noramlly would by playing live poker (with friends, or at the casion) so the chances of u seeing that really obsurd hand is incerased. Example just yesterday i had 77 raised called a re raise from QQ and 55 called all preflop. FLOP: 7 Q 5 :) when u at a casino u can only play 1 hand at a time, online u can play 10
 
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LMAO at his rant, about Carbon blocking him! lol he says, that he has folded AA and KK preflop, that it has saved him from busting in a MTT! Does he not know doing this is called soft play!
 
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A trustworthy Government entity? A trustworthy Government entity? No offense; where would you find one of those? America, maybe? Oh, yes, look at the fabulous job they have done regulating:
The housing market
The savings and loan industry
The environment
The board of edumacation
The department of (fill in the blank).

ROFL!!!!!




Frankly, If they ever do closely regulate the hands we get in a poker game, that will be the time to only play live!

A trustworthy Government entity...dude, you crack me up. God, I hope your not serious. That's hilarious. I wouldn't trust those nimrods to regulate a rock collection.

so you wouldn't trust the govt....but trust moneygrabbing poker sites? ???

and who hasnt folded aa or kk in a tournament to not bubble?? is that a banning offense?
 
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more action , more rake .
Thats the principle of all poker sites.
So imo its all rigged, but as I play only for fun, I dont care
 
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not rigged, selective memory
 
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so you wouldn't trust the govt....but trust moneygrabbing poker sites? ???

and who hasnt folded aa or kk in a tournament to not bubble?? is that a banning offense?

If you're folding AA aipf in a tournament, and you aren't in a DoN or some other sick ICM spot, you are playing tournaments wrong.
 
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Bad beats happen sometimes, that's poker. Sometimes the person will suck out from way behind and sometimes the other hand will hold up. Sure there will be streaks of each case, but that doesn't mean a site is "rigged."
 
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Does "magic162" has something with this site below?

Here
 
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so you wouldn't trust the govt....but trust moneygrabbing poker sites? ???

and who hasnt folded aa or kk in a tournament to not bubble?? is that a banning offense?

:hello: :secruity: Nit Alert Nit Alert, Sir I believe you folded AA/KK on the bubble, in Texas you can go to jail for that :p
 
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so you wouldn't trust the govt....but trust moneygrabbing poker sites? ???

and who hasnt folded aa or kk in a tournament to not bubble?? is that a banning offense?

As to your first point: YES. I WOULD TRUST A MONEY GRUBBING SITE FIRST. At least with them you know where you stand. The 11 scariest words ever spoken have got to be "Hi; I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you!

As for the second, that's why he is full of it. Even if someone complained, they would have to look at several games where it was done by the same person, not just 2 hands!
 
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Hey Michael, I dont think I have read anything from you at CC till I saw this.

Thank you for posting. It is sad that people like the guy you spoke of in your OP actually get people believing their conspiracy crap. It is a breath of fresh air to read posts like yours!!!!

Thank you! That just inspires me to keep it up, so I hope you're serious (lol).
 
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UPDATE

After challenging this bozo to come here and respond to my post (which we all know will not ever happen) someone responded to my comment, directing me to a tracking site to check out his wonderful stats. They claim because of this, he MUST know what he is talking about!

I didn't do it for one simple reason: If I go, I know the sites he has amassed these stats on are the same ones he claims are rigged, and I do not think my ribs could handle the laughter. If he should develop a set of testicles and does respond to my challenge here, I'll just have to risk it, so I can throw that in his face.

You hear that, magic612? Come get some baby. I'll be gentle.
 
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LOL reminds me a bit of the waterboat guy on fulltilt. Look up waterboat for a really good laugh or two.
 
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After challenging this bozo to come here and respond to my post (which we all know will not ever happen) someone responded to my comment, directing me to a tracking site to check out his wonderful stats. They claim because of this, he MUST know what he is talking about!

I didn't do it for one simple reason: If I go, I know the sites he has amassed these stats on are the same ones he claims are rigged, and I do not think my ribs could handle the laughter. If he should develop a set of testicles and does respond to my challenge here, I'll just have to risk it, so I can throw that in his face.

You hear that, magic612? Come get some baby. I'll be gentle.

Oh man, this is one funny ass thread. Had to subscribe. ;)

That same video was posted in our poker group on Facebook for everyone to giggle at, really hope that dipstick comes here for this. :banghead:
 
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UPDATE>>>UPDATE>>>LMAO

Well, well, well. After challenging this LYING SACK OF POOP to come here and make his accusations public in a place that could prove or disprove it, someone commented on my challenge to him. GUESS WHAT HAPPENED when I tried to reply?
rest+my+case.bmp


I want anyone with some spare time to go and comment, simply ask him when he will show up to answer his accusations and prove them:

This is where the little liar lives at on yourtube...."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkUngMAu58&feature=c4-overview&list=UUhqmPPyZqEiF7HUGDs4MlIQ" Paste this to go and reply

This is the video:


Lets do it!
 
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I just told him to get help.
 
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Well, well, well. After challenging this LYING SACK OF POOP to come here and make his accusations public in a place that could prove or disprove it, someone commented on my challenge to him.

Where is "this place" exactly? Unless you have the poker sites' actual software code, I don't know exactly what you plan to be proving or disproving.
 
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