Ever seen this rule enforced? I never knew it existed

Was in a hand and sitting in the 8 seat and a 9 person table. Was ready to fold on 4th street after a bet and showed the cards to the guy sitting next to me in the 7 seat (he was not and never was in the hand). The only player left behind me folds to the bet and the dealer takes my cards and shows them to the entire table? I had never seen the "show one show all" rule ever enforced in a situation where a player shows his cards as he's mucking them to a player who was not in the hand and never was in the hand. Perhaps I've been playing in the wrong casinos over the years or simply not enough places are enforcing this supposed rule.

Just guessing but maybe because you are showing one player, even though they were not in the hand, it is still giving them information.

PooffyFooffy said:

Just guessing but maybe because you are showing one player, even though they were not in the hand, it is still giving them information.

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That was the explanation given, but the bottom line is at most low stakes casino games most people are not smart enough to even remember what some person showed them they folded after an hour goes by, much less find any way to use it to their advantage. I'm lucky if I can remember at 2am what I ate for dinner.

In the casino I play, that rule is usually always enforced. The only time is the dealer seems new and might forget to enforce the rule.

Show one Show all rule has been around forever. I have seen it enforced many times.

BM0529 said:

That was the explanation given, but the bottom line is at most low stakes casino games most people are not smart enough to even remember what some person showed them they folded after an hour goes by, much less find any way to use it to their advantage.

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And how is the dealer supposed to know what kind of players are at the table, or even care? He has a job to do. Show one, show all. I've seen it enforced many times as well if the dealer sees it happening.

very commonly enforced rule everywere I have ever played.

BM0529 said:

That was the explanation given, but the bottom line is at most low stakes casino games most people are not smart enough to even remember what some person showed them they folded after an hour goes by, much less find any way to use it to their advantage. I'm lucky if I can remember at 2am what I ate for dinner.

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In that case presumably it won't matter if they all see what you had...

they enforce that rule at my local casino but only usually if you were in the hand.
edit: but if your showing the guy next to you what you had and you are folding, does it really matter if everyone sees it?

regd87 said:

they enforce that rule at my local casino but only usually if you were in the hand.
edit: but if your showing the guy next to you what you had and you are folding, does it really matter if everyone sees it?

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Yep - everyone should have the same opportunity to know what you fold.

What's been said above - common/standard rule and it's been around forever for good reason.

I haven't seen the dealer straight pick up the cards, but if someone says something they will show them. I am not above asking for this when I really want information on someone either.

i've seen that

good rule too

usually happens when a card flashes on it's way into the muck and somebody at the table announces they saw it, but some did not ... then they show the card to everyone, so the other players know that card is not in play

dakota-xx said:

very commonly enforced rule everywhere I have ever played.

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^^this.

Never seen it enforced, but would like to see it done more. You are giving the one player an advantage in reading you as a player.

My question is: What on Earth compelled you to show your cards to another player at the table in the first place?

something similar to that...I was playing in a poker club and I won the hand after i bet on the river and I show one card and then a player at the table said can i see the other one and i said na i dont wanna show that one....and as i said that the dealer flips up my card and I flipped out I said woo why did you flip that one over i only wanted to show one card...then the dealer said club rules said if show one any other player at the table thats wants to can ask to see your cards........and I thought that was a crap rule...so to get past that and still show one card I would immediately toss the other card into the muck haha

have kinda a funny story, it was around midnight, and i'm wrapping up my session, the dealer is a very short lady, and play passed over me, when i said hey hold up, she says "sorry i couldn't see you had cards, i couldn't see over those big hands," then dealer says, "let me see your cards," me being sleepy and just an idiot, interprets it as flip your cards over, i show QQ, someone bets into me regrdless trying to suck out an A on the river. . .lol. . .
p.s we have that rule also, but dealers rarely enforce. . .however talking about the present hand is of course hugely against the house rules; saw a floor manager escort an individual out aftert repeatedly ignoring this rule. . .it was a scene. .lol

The casino I play always saws all

dakota-xx said:

very commonly enforced rule everywere I have ever played.

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Even im my home game.

i think i would be concerned if they didnt follow the rule

i think i would be concerned if they didnt follow the rule

was always enforced at the local casinos i used to play in around the Seattle area however most people whould just muck them face up knowing the rule is in exsistance.

BIRIYANI said:

I dont think its a rule but my opinion is that its nothing to do with any1 else what you may have bet on or folded !

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Ummm on what exactly is your opinion based ?

The extra info the player who was shown the cards gained is an unfair advantage towards the players without that info - the "show one - show all" rule effectively counters that advantage.

grafkarow said:

Even im my home game.

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Yep +1. My home games are like this too. If you see someone showing their cards to another play you should ask what they showed and don't quit until you get an answer. This information will be value in future decisions.

For anyone looking for a source on the rule, BTW:

Robert's Rules of Poker, Section 3: General Poker Rules - The Showdown

6. Show one, show all. Players are entitled to receive equal access to information about the contents of another player’s hand. After a deal, if cards are shown to another player, every player at the table has a right to see those cards. During a deal, cards that were shown to an active player who might have a further wagering decision on that betting round must immediately be shown to all the other players. If the player who saw the cards is not involved in the deal, or cannot use the information in wagering, the information should be withheld until the betting is over, so it does not affect the normal outcome of the deal. Cards shown to a person who has no more wagering decisions on that betting round, but might use the information on a later betting round, should be shown to the other players at the conclusion of that betting round. If only a portion of the hand has been shown, there is no requirement to show any of the unseen cards. The shown cards are treated as given in the preceding part of this rule.

...and the Poker TDA rule:

52: No Disclosure
Players are obligated to protect other players in the tournament at all times. Therefore, players, whether in the hand or not, may not:

1. Disclose contents of live or folded hands,
2. Advise or criticize play at any time,
3. Read a hand that hasn’t been tabled.

The one-player-to-a-hand rule will be enforced.