DON'T READ THIS TIP

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DON'T READ THIS TIP!
its tips from the pros by phil ivey (hes one and only tip)

so i was on full tilts website and found this,too lazy to write so i'll just copy and paste:eek:

When it comes to advice about poker, my attitude is very simple: seek it out, absorb it, but while you're at the table, forget it.

I'm a firm believer in learning the game by playing the game. I'm not saying there aren't a lot of great resources around to help players improve their games or that poker books and tutorials don't have their place. They do. However, the problem I see with people who rely on these kinds of aids is that they end up playing poker like someone else or - even worse - like everyone else.

One of the things that makes poker great is that it's a game where there's really no right or wrong way to play. Every player has their own approach to the game and the key, in my opinion, is to take the things you learn from other players and incorporate them into a style of play that works for you.

There are some players who take a very mathematical approach to the game, and for them, it works. They study the odds and make decisions based on whether they think they're getting the right price to commit their chips to a pot. It's a solid way to play, but the fact is, it's not the right approach for everyone. What's more, even the best of these players will tell you that math only takes you so far.

Calculating the odds can certainly help you decide whether you're making a smart move, but it doesn't take into account who you're playing against. There are many times when you can do all of the math you want and your decision still comes down to intangibles and a feeling about your opponent or the situation you're facing. Does this guy have a hand? Can I push him off the pot? Am I getting myself into trouble here? Even if the odds say you should play, your gut may be telling you something else, and that's something you can only develop by playing.

Relying too much on other peoples' advice can actually make it harder to develop this kind of reading ability because it tends to clutter up your head. You get so focused on thinking about odds, probabilities and strategies that you forget that you're playing against someone else and that you have to try and figure out what he or she is doing. Are they scared? Will they fold to pressure? Are they a maniac? In my opinion, these are the important things to keep in mind during a hand.

It's been said before, but it bears repeating. Poker isn't about the cards; it's about the players and the situations. Winning players understand that sometimes you have to take chances. Sometimes they work and other times they don't. Whether you win the hand or not, you have to make the play that you believe is best.

At the end of a hand or a session, go back and study the things you did well and be honest with yourself about where you made mistakes. Don't, however, overanalyze how you could have played a hand differently because this can negatively impact how you approach your next hand or session. Identify your mistakes, learn from them, and move on. Just because some play or move didn't work the way you wanted doesn't mean you were wrong to try it. As I said before, there are just some things that you have to learn by playing.

So here's my advice. Read this tip. Read other tips and poker books. Talk to your friends. Absorb as much information as you can. But at the end of the day you have to trust your instincts and play your own game - not someone else's.

Phil Ivey

very weird tip from ivey!what u think ?:confused: :confused:
i wanna do what he sais,seems to work for him unless he wants everyone to
do that and be loosing players...:eek:

*info from http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/pro-tip/PhilIvey/125
tip name is DON'T READ THIS TIP!
 
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Thats how Ive done it so far and ive had some success.

Like he said its down to how you feel best to approach it.
 
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I wouldn't call it weird. I think it's pretty obvious that is how Ivey plays. The situations, opponents, their hand, the gut feeling, and ability to stick with that feeling and act upon it is what separates the good poker players from the best in the world such as Ivey.
 
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I think its very good tip , the number one player !!
evry day u can learn something new at the table
 
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Ha ha, I was reading that thinking, wow Tonk sounds like he has a sound understanding of this game. Hadn't noticed that it was a copy/paste deal, ha ha.
 
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Ha ha, I was reading that thinking, wow Tonk sounds like he has a sound understanding of this game. Hadn't noticed that it was a copy/paste deal, ha ha.

yup lol,i dont know poker well:smile:
but im too lazy to just re write it all:deal: :joyman: :D
i like using this method too(not c/p,i mean the tip)
and so does ivey, when people
asked him will u ever write a book and why he sais
"prolly not, because im too lazy"
lol im too lazy to read it anyway:)
 
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One of the most important things Ivey is implying but not explicitly saying is that you can read a book and misunderstand the concept the author was presenting and that can adversely affect your play. I think that is why he's saying personal experience is best even though it can take longer.
 
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What the hell has this Phil Ivey guy ever done?? Why should we listen to him??
 
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..ye it is a great tip...same cards on one hand doesnt mean the same result as on the second hand...wish he wrote more tips, i think alot of people would really really appreciate it...
 
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..ye it is a great tip...same cards on one hand doesnt mean the same result as on the second hand...wish he wrote more tips, i think alot of people would really really appreciate it...

I agree also. He has so many fans and a humungo amount of people that consider him a god...he should reach out and make the most of it. He is probably just waiting for take down in Nov then he'll burst out. haha. All in all, I am a fan and would love to read a book on his thoughts and strats.
 
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Obviously, Ivey know what he's talking about. But, remember how accomplished he is and how many years its taken him to get to where he is. At this stage of his career, he has a "feel" for the game, the players at his table, and the situations in which he finds himself. No one gets to that stage without a high level of skills, honed by years of experience. For us mere mortals, especially beginners and intermediate players, we haven't yet developed the same sense of "feel" that Ivey has. So, we tend to play based more on mathematics and recepies, following the guidelines in the various books that we read. It's only after playing by these guidelines and gaining the experience that we can hope to begin to develop a "feel" for the other players and situations.
 
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