Does this happen or work?

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I seen some people chatting in a .05/.10 $ cash game on full tilt. they said that there are people who sit at a table raise or push all in( mainly all in) take the blinds(imguessing a higher limit than the one i was in) and then leave to go sit at a new table and do the same thing. i mean if you do it at a .25/.50$ table thats .75 cents every time. i wonder??? any comments or answers?
 
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It works until you get called and lose your $$$
 
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for the sake of argument we'll say you bought in for $5 at .05/.10, and posted the blind out of position because you're just going to shove any way.

if it works and they all fold, you win $0.15, unless others came in the pot before you. sometimes there will be a limper or two before you, sometimes a raiser (although perhaps you don't want to do this when someone's raised and shown strength, i don't know). let's just say you average $0.25 profit each time everyone folds to your shove.
if you get called and lose, you lose $5.00
if you get called and win, you win $5.05+ (depends on if one of the blinds calls you and also limpers).

if you're making that big overbet with any two and you get called, you're probably way behind. for the sake of argument, we'll figure you're 25% to win when called, on average (i mean, you'll have a decent hand once in a while). we'll ignore times when you get two callers, and say that the added amount in the pot makes up for the fact that you're almost always crushed when this happens and evens out. that'd just be too complicated

so when you get called, 75% of the time you lose $5, and you suck out 25% of the time for ~$5.20. that averages to a loss of just under $2.50 each hand your all-in is called. with rake, we'll just say $2.50.

by my rough estimations, each time everyone folds, you'll average about $0.25 in pure profit, due to other players sometimes being in the pot. each time you get called, you lose ~$2.50. in order for this to be break even, you'd need the whole table to fold 10/11 times, or 91% of the time. for it to be profitable, they need to fold more

i don't think it's likely at all that players would fold enough for this to be profitable even short-term. at 6 max you might have a better chance because there are less good hands out, but people also adjust their calling ranges shorthanded. when someone sits down and immediately shoves all-in, a lot of players will suspect he's just trying for a quick blind steal.. players do this often when they're tilting and/or stuck for some amount of money, at all limits. even if it did make money in the short-term, people would make notes on you over time and adjust their calling ranges

in short: just play good poker and win money that way :)
 
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I have thought about doing this at a table with much much higher limits, I mean if you go to a table that is like $50/100 blinds and go all in with lets say $500 people are going to need a pretty big hand to call you. Of course if you get called you can probably kiss your $500 good bye. I don't think it's really worth the risk of getting called.
 
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I have thought about doing this at a table with much much higher limits, I mean if you go to a table that is like $50/100 blinds and go all in with lets say $500 people are going to need a pretty big hand to call you. Of course if you get called you can probably kiss your $500 good bye. I don't think it's really worth the risk of getting called.


Ya but what if you wait until you have a good hand :p
 
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I have thought about doing this at a table with much much higher limits, I mean if you go to a table that is like $50/100 blinds and go all in with lets say $500 people are going to need a pretty big hand to call you.

definitely not. they wouldn't be playing $50/100 if $500 was even a remotely big deal to them. $500 is five big blinds, that's all it is. you'd get called by a huuuge range, so you'd better have a good hand
 
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that sure is gambling right ther, but i would say u lose alot more than u win by trying to buy the blinds. if u lose once at a .05 .10 table, u goin needa win lots times jus to cover 1 loss...im thinkin this is pointless
 
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