Do you slowroll online?

I do this move a fair amount of the time when i have kings or aces and my opponent has more chips than me to tilt them. I take around 40 seconds to call the all in then 'BAM' pocket ace's. 'ahhhh you weren't expecting that were ya'. Sometime's this method backfires horribly and they suck out and comments pop up in the chatbox like 'haha you deserved that' and maybe i did. I'll let it be known though i would never pull this move on someone who has less chips because it's just really unfair. Take 40 second's guy thinks im folding or im thinking of calling with a weak hand then 'BAM' pocket aces - nah i wouldn't wanna tilt a guy who im about to knock out cause i gain nothing from it.

First of all, it's never okay to slowroll. Ever. Slowrolling is a total dick move and one of the cardinal rules in poker etiquette. Do this live at the wrong table and you're likely to leave the casino minus some teeth.

That said, I don't think you understand what slowroll means. Since you state your intention is pretty much the same as a slowroller (i.e. to be a major dick) then it's probably moot, but technically a slowroll can only happen when you're closing the action with the absolute nuts, e.g. you're last to act on the river or facing a shove, and your hand can't possibly be beaten.

In any other scenario, you can't technically slowroll, including preflop with AA. There are actually certain tournament scenarios where tanking or even folding AA preflop is advisable. In a cash game or a routine tournament scenario, some may consider tanking with AA preflop a form of slowrolling, especially if done only to tilt your opponent. However AA can always be beaten so it's not technically slowrolling.

Slowplaying is not slowrolling. The former is an acceptable and often strategic play, while the latter is never justified.

Regardless, intent is the important factor, and your expressed intent seem to be to the same as a slowroller, so I would strongly advise you to stop it.

Yes I have done this online to people who have done so to me and others who have trash talked relentlessly.

During the bubble,some people do adapt this tactic intentionally.But in cash game it not very advisable to do it.And it is slowplaying not slowrolling if that what you meant to say.

If you played live would probably beat you.

joe777 said:

And it is slowplaying not slowrolling if that what you meant to say.

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They are different terms. There is a video out there of Shaun Deeb slowrolling Mike Matusow...worth a look. There is also a scene in Rounders where Worm slowrolls one of the Russian players in an underground game. (I didn't know the difference either at first.)

Sounds lame to me. Youre wasting both yours and your opponents time for what that does not change your chances of winning in any way. And I'd be damned if I ever tilt with this shit.

To take an inordinate amount of time to call an all-in bet or raise as the last player to act and nobody else besides the all-in player remaining in the hand, all while holding the nuts. It is considered very unsportsmanlike.

I might have experienced the above but is it still called slow-rolling if you are setting a trap.
Is taking more time than allocated the only criterion to call it slow-rolling?

Can anybody please help me understand.

Didn't want to start a new thread so included in the same topic.

I explained the difference between slowplaying and slowrolling in my post above.

The definition you quoted in the first line of your post is the textbook definition of slowrolling. It is NOT the same as slowplaying, which is acceptable.

I haven't or atleast don't remember doing such a horrible thing anywhere but i have seen people do it both live and online. Once it happened to me live at a home game. The guy was loosing against me for a few sessions and decided to get back at me. Obviously i was furious and had steam coming out of my ears. There was some guy here not long ago named "Raj", i remember i was at a final 2 tables left on one of the freerolls and he did slowroll one of the players and all of us were shocked. There were a few threads about this incident.

Really don't advice anyone to do such a horrible act because it hurts like hell when happens to you.

Blatantly obvious example of slowplaying: You have AA in the big blind. The button raises. You call. Let's say the flop comes AAx. You check, the villain bets, you call. You check the turn, the villain bets again, you call again, and so on.

I don't know about anyone else, but I aspire to have a poker skill set worthy of respect and that means I don't pull lame stunts like slowrolling and taking max time on every hand in hyper turbos like I see so many idiots doing on Bovada. I know these people are doing it on purpose because many of them sit right back in within two seconds after being timed out.

Having somebody slowroll a royal flush on your all-in? Your stack. Having somebody who's slowrolling a royal flush on your all-in lose his internet connection 5 seconds before his timebank runs out? Priceless!

its a waste of time anyone making reasonable money or good enough to make reasonable money is usually multi tabling. people who are multi tabling would rarely notice anyway as theyd be clicking on other tables they may notice when they lose the hand but even then that isn't assured. theres no need to tilt a bad player they can be out played anyway. even if someone does notice your "slow roll they would probably assume that your poor net connection watching something or doing something else, or that you are playing more tables.

the only way i would ever know to take this personally is if you in fact were to write in the chat hahaha i did that on purpose.

which id have to notice.

your just wasting your own time and living ina fantasy world.

I think everybody one or another have slowroll one hand or two and when it works it feels great in the cases it doesn´t you feel a donk cause u let a wining hand slide away

I agree 100% with dnorris. Slow rolling in a live game is grounds for a fight in my opinion. Online, its worse because its cowardly to do behind a PC screen. Just my opinion, anyway.

Slow rolling can be used to tilt opponents, thus making them play worse and giving you an advantage... Isn't that a good enough reason to do it?

If I flop the nuts or hit trips with a pocket pair on flop, of course I'll slow play. I won't do it to be a 8==D but if I know I can make a bigger pot, I will. If a flush or straight draw pops up then it's a different story.

I tend to "slowrol" every move, check/bet/fold when we are close to ITM hoping someone breaks the bubble soon. That does not mean I stop playing hands. I just use all of the allowed time. I got AA andyou move all in. Yea i am using all my time and time bank before putting it in the middle.

No never, or live. No matter how much I hate the person.
If action is on me and essentially over I do what I know I need to do asap.
Poker Karma can be a bitch!

Too many of you still don't understand the difference between slow playing and slow rolling...

dmorris68 said:

Too many of you still don't understand the difference between slow playing and slow rolling...

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kept thinking that the more i read.

The way I remember it is Imagine Roll as you are turning/rolling over your cards this is slow rolling, you obviously have the best hand and wait for opponent to turn over theirs and then wait to turn over yours giving your oppoennt they have the best hand - Terrible Etiquette liable to piss off not only your opponent but also the table.

Slow Playing as the name suggests it is when you are still playing the hand and try to give the impression that you are weak when in fact you have the nuts or close to it to entice your opponent to bet

PS if you are slowplaying and then slowroll at the end you may end up in intensive care at the wrong table

I personally can not stand people to slow roll. It drives me insane and is very very rude. I got slow rolled in a tourney last night so I decided to slow roll the guy back over the next couple of hands and he had the nerve to go off on me via chat.. INSANE

Slow playing is just trouble waiting to happen.

madsquirrel said:

I personally can not stand people to slow roll. It drives me insane and is very very rude. I got slow rolled in a tourney last night so I decided to slow roll the guy back over the next couple of hands and he had the nerve to go off on me via chat.. INSANE

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Stupid!

slowplaying ie= taking a lot of time over your next decision when youve got a good or the best hand with intention on making villan think your weak...slowroll ie= taking your time when last to act on someones allin when youve got absoulte nuts intention to wind up or hurt villan in a cruel way..[very sad play]G,L

I never slow roll. Always do an insta click online, just like I would do a snap call live. I'm not a fan of people who slowroll. If you slowroll, you are asking to be slowrolled.