Do table manners / poker politeness matter to you on the felt?

always2away · Feb 27, 2009

I was in a private game last night and we were down to 4 players. Limp, limp, limp, I am short-stacked and push all-in with AK in the BB. I get one caller with A 10. First card out is, of course, a 10 and I am out in fourth place.

The chip leader, who is now second in chips, congratulates the leader on his nice hand. I say "really...nice hand? Isn't it more like nice catch?"

Two hands later, the two big stacks are all-in and the fellow who took me out comes from behind and outdraws the congratulator from my knock-out, and now it is down to heads-up.

The guy, who just 2 hands before was happy as a clam that I was outdrawn on is now spitting mad that he was outdrawn on. He rails for a good 20 minutes during the heads-up play about what a terrible play and player the other guy is.

After a few minutes of this it was kinda funny. After 20 minutes it was kinda sad, and it seemed to me, pretty rude.

The remaining 2 players were polite and commenting very little. I got the impression that the griper was trying to influence the outcome of the game by trying to get under the skin of the guy who knocked him out.

Do you think almost all is fair in love and poker, or should there be limits to this kind of behavior?

aLoser4evR · Feb 27, 2009

You can always shut the chat off and just ignore the players using a chat mouth to distract you.
They're just trying to use it to distract you.

S93 · Feb 27, 2009

live games yes i hate sitting was assholes but online i couldnt care less.
I mostly just have chat off or just ignore it if it isnt a CC game.

hipshot55 · Feb 27, 2009

I personally think that manners always count, on or off the tables. Sadly, that concept seems to have died, along with morality and ethics, sometime back in the 70's. I put the annoying ones on ignore. The racist, sexist and whatever-ists I report to the poker site. If they are in a CC event (yes, it definitely does happen), I copy the chat and pm it to a mod for review. Little else one can do.

flyfish4 · Feb 27, 2009

i think its ok to make a comment when theres been a suckout. but when u see some people rant and rave for 20 mins and longer thats getting carried away. get over it and move on !

Gribbley · Feb 27, 2009

I often just check ignore on people or turn off the chat all together. I also prefer live poker because people tend to respect one another more.

Divebitch · Feb 28, 2009

This is absolutely hilarious to me. First off, I would not blame the guy with AT. But whenever I see the 'nice hand' crap if a lesser hand wins especially before the flop, it annoys me, what a suckup. On a low level, the suckup was trying to identify with the winner (thus justifying his own bad play). And he could no longer kid himself when he too failed by his own wrong decision. So not sure what your real question is, limits? Report him? No. Limits as far as making a fool of himslf, sure. Not your problem though.

Nickmond · Mar 1, 2009

People who lose their cool and go over the top when winning or losing are more likely to let emotion affect their play. I prefer playing people like that, and I intentionally try to frustrate them. Typically works pretty well. It's the guy who never says a word that's hard to throw off his game

akaCLINT · Mar 2, 2009

Manners..., on internet there are a lot of people saying stuff they wouldnt dare to say in real life for fear of having to eat fluid food for the next weeks...
Yes, they do matter to me, i like to play in a friendly environment...
There is always the "ignore-button" i tend to use, i hate having to turn off the (observer-)chat, that is when i report people to the sites..., quiets them down for some time untill chat ban is lifted...lol

Worak · Mar 2, 2009

hipshot55 said:
I personally think that manners always count, on or off the tables. Sadly, that concept seems to have died, along with morality and ethics, sometime back in the 70's.

With you and me (and my mom , sis and bro) thinking that manners always do count - the idea can't be quite that dead yet.

If someone is rude to me I mostly don't answer - until I have taken him/her off the table.
Then I might comment his wail on the rail.

plainluck · Mar 2, 2009

I'm old and didn't grow up with this type of thing so when I first started playing it pretty well shocked me. Now I try to ignore it. The only one that really got me was when someone was saying horrible things to a Vietnam Vet. It would be nice if we could turn off their chat the way we can the players. If I were going to answer them I would probably just say, "You could be right. Let me think about it."

JaBone30 · Mar 2, 2009

I try to b polite when I can, but mom taught me if u have nothing nice to say then don't say anything. I wish more people lived by that but they do not and there is not a thing we can do about it. Sadly we must take it, chalk it up as that persons insecurities, and do our best to put them out and prove our point on the felt not the keyboard.

Bigd1981 · Mar 2, 2009

I personally can't stand the ones that talk in a foreign language! it really gets under my skin....I even went so far one time when I was playing on Ultimate Suck to go out and google everything this asshole was saying and then started speaking his language back....needless to say he shut up real quick!!! guess I got my point across to where he could understand...lol

Philo Betto420 · Mar 2, 2009

Poor losers...

always2away said:
I was in a private game last night and we were down to 4 players. Limp, limp, limp, I am short-stacked and push all-in with AK in the BB. I get one caller with A 10. First card out is, of course, a 10 and I am out in fourth place.

The chip leader, who is now second in chips, congratulates the leader on his nice hand. I say "really...nice hand? Isn't it more like nice catch?"

Two hands later, the two big stacks are all-in and the fellow who took me out comes from behind and outdraws the congratulator from my knock-out, and now it is down to heads-up.

The guy, who just 2 hands before was happy as a clam that I was outdrawn on is now spitting mad that he was outdrawn on. He rails for a good 20 minutes during the heads-up play about what a terrible play and player the other guy is.

After a few minutes of this it was kinda funny. After 20 minutes it was kinda sad, and it seemed to me, pretty rude.

The remaining 2 players were polite and commenting very little. I got the impression that the griper was trying to influence the outcome of the game by trying to get under the skin of the guy who knocked him out.

Do you think almost all is fair in love and poker, or should there be limits to this kind of behavior?

Being behind a computer screen is an excuse to be an ass??? I dont think so... I have had this happen to me on several occasions Ive been the one bent out of shape on a bad beat and Ive sucked people right out of large stacks... You knock some one out with a crap hand you played just to be a joker and you win so what its still gambling... Just because your not playing a set strategy or just to new to poker to know any better last I checked any one can play any cards they want... Ive been called lots of things for playing rags it was a gut feeling to push all in with nothing am I wrong to take you down with rags??? No not really... I have found lots of railbirds especially after I knockem down want to stay and hassel me but I simply be as polite as possable and tell them better luck next time... I mean who cares what you win with as long as you are winning...

dropdead1 · Mar 2, 2009

I've have heard some horrific name calling on the poker sites. But by far the worst was on our local SA site when my husband took a huge pot of some guy and he said: "I hope you and your family all get murdered tonight". That was really, really disgusting! Lately I keep my chat turned off permanently so as to avoid a repeat performance.

joesta · Mar 2, 2009

Im defiantly okay with some trash talking and letting everyone kno whos the boss at the table but theres a line! and when u cross it u turn from the boss to the a** and u lose all respect. and then i put the ignor on them

OzExorcist · Mar 2, 2009

Online, I couldn't care less - it's funny, for the most part, and at the end of the day a chat box can't hurt you.

Live is a different matter. There's really no excuse for behaving like that, and one of the big upsides to playing in casinos is they have security to deal with those people.

hipshot55 · Mar 2, 2009

joesta said:
Im defiantly okay with some trash talking and letting everyone kno whos the boss at the table but theres a line! and when u cross it u turn from the boss to the a** and u lose all respect. and then i put the ignor on them

LOL. What possible trash or other talk would make a person the "boss of the table"? That may be the most singularly ridiculous thing I have seen posted in many days. There's an old saying, "Money talks and bull^%$* walks". Want to be the "boss of the table"? Keep you mouth shut and win all the chips.

highway26776 · Mar 3, 2009

I have given up on manners at a table . To date i have never seen it . Trash talking is just another form of rudeness it doesnt make your play any better by talkin shite . It would be nice if it was like my local club game where if you talk rubbish you wont be invited back =-)

highway26776 · Mar 3, 2009

hipshot55 said:
LOL. What possible trash or other talk would make a person the "boss of the table"? That may be the most singularly ridiculous thing I have seen posted in many days. There's an old saying, "Money talks and bull^%$* walks". Want to be the "boss of the table"? Keep you mouth shut and win all the chips.

LMAO thats what i ment to say..... well said

TIGERSTUMP · Mar 3, 2009

i hate wen guys are bad loosers an hang around railing,,,its shows lack ov respect for guys still playin,,,yes weve all wanted to do it wen we get suked out on...on mi part i take it on the chin,,shout at the cat for 2 mins then look for another game..lol

imasquare · Mar 3, 2009

I don't care about table manners in online poker, i find it very funny how some people make themselves look like idiots typing crap to others who don't care what you have to say, and like myself are laughing at you but i sometimes like to type some stuff back to them to make them even madder, but if you don't like the trash talk you can always block their chat. and about the nice hand stuff, i hate it how some people us their nh's lol way too often, i only use them rarely when there's an actual hand worth congratulating.

hothandsmgee · Mar 3, 2009

Listen bad beats happen. Sure you can be angy about it. But whining like a toddler and complaining at the table is just annoying. Leave with any dignity you have left.

FEARFACTOR · Mar 3, 2009

We've all seen the players who talk trash. Most of the time it's harmless banter, but there are some real sore losers out there who get pretty nasty. What I really hate is the sore winner who thinks his game is perfect and you suck no matter how you're playing your cards. Some are just plain azzholes that hide behind their screen, others are probably just rude people period. I believe in treating others with respect, and try not to get rude unless I'm provoked over and over again. Intimidation does affect alot of players games, though, by either making them fold marginal hands to avoid further ridicule, or putting them in tilt mode where they are out to get the abusive player. Like it or not, it's a strategy that works. My pet peeve, though, are the suckup players who type "vnh" constantly, even for terrible calls that suck out on a true "vnh". Please save your comments for genuine "very nice hands".

snoopy1dan · Mar 3, 2009

I generally dont care about manners, I am almost always courteuos.
If someone is bothering me by there attitude though I will turn off chat

Do table manners / poker politeness matter to you on the felt?

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