Difference between winning and losing

blueskies

blueskies

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Jan 31, 2009
Total posts
3,643
Awards
9
Chips
304
For me, the key between a winning or losing session, besides avoiding or getting bad beats, is how well I do with AK/AQ. I imagine for many players, that's true as well?
 
P

Pafkata

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 8, 2009
Total posts
192
Chips
0
If you don't learn when to fold your top pair-top kicker hand - you will never be a winner. I learned this more than a year ago, and more other interesting things to think about came up :)

AK/AQ rarely win a full stack in cash games and you shouldn't overplay them
 
E

eamesy4980

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2010
Total posts
90
Chips
0
The difference between winning sessions and losing sessions is just luck! That simple. you can play the greatest poker youve every played but you get few bad beats you have a losing session. Ive justlost 2 sit n gos. plaing well. Guy went all in i called with queen queen another called.. Both had ace jack. and yes you guessed it an ace hit the flop!! incredible. Then other sit n go had a k suited guy went all in i called. he had 6 7!! flop hits 6 77!!!!!!! wtf. Thats the diff between winning and losing sessions. doenst matter what hands you have, how much a fav you are your still going to have huge bad beat runs and have losing sessions. Luck is the difference.
 
E

eamesy4980

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2010
Total posts
90
Chips
0
But you shouldnt judge your poker skills by 1 session, or by 20 sessions. As long as you are always making the correct decisions and the correct plays then over the long period of time you will win. The big problem with most players is tilt. You just have to play correctly every single time. Dont let anything else affect your play. Then you will win in long run, which is what counts. My tip is...Dont look at your bankroll. play correctly, always making sound decisions. obviously youl have bad beats etc but take them on chin and just play, harder than it sounds lol. after a long period say if you play everyday then after amonth. if you play every few days then a few months. then you may be pleasantly surprised by a nice tidy profit. whereas you thinking you had a big loss due to your bad beats sticking in your head.
 
Daniel72

Daniel72

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Aug 10, 2010
Total posts
2,284
Awards
2
Chips
18
For me the most important factor is, who is able to bring his a-game all the time, in good times and also in times, when he is running bad. And the differerence between good and very good players is the THIN VALUE BET on the river ! :D
 
ckickenking

ckickenking

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 2, 2010
Total posts
1,006
Awards
1
Chips
1
The only answer I can come up with is how much you bring home and or in your account. If I lose the majority of my hands but still profit then I'm a winner. Right? You don't need to bring your A game if you're already coming out on top. You can be a winner with a good amount of luck, as long as you getting paid. So that is what make a winner compare to a loser who don't bring home money.
 
psy0nyd3

psy0nyd3

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 20, 2010
Total posts
929
Awards
1
Chips
31
The difference between a winning and losing player is simple. The winning player is happy, because he just won - and the loser is fuming mad.
 
Last edited:
A

AUPhoenix

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 16, 2008
Total posts
491
Chips
0
For me, the key between a winning or losing session, besides avoiding or getting bad beats, is how well I do with AK/AQ. I imagine for many players, that's true as well?

Definitely not, the difference is how well you play. Aces get sucked out on. Small pairs are tuff to play anywhere on the table. If I feel good about the way I played that tourney or ring game then I am ok with losing some money. Not even the true professionals win all the time. Just got to know you played your best while at the table.
 
Leo 50

Leo 50

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 14, 2007
Total posts
1,285
Awards
1
Chips
0
Don't decide that you are a winner or loser by one or even two sessions.
If you are serious about poker you will keep track of ALL your sessions.
And over the long haul, if you are making money then you are a winner.

Daniel Negreanu, is (was) second on the all time money list of tourney
wins.
Yet he has NEVER won the main event.

Get the point?


:cool:
 
flipflops_n_shades

flipflops_n_shades

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 14, 2009
Total posts
53
Chips
0
Also, how you respond to taking a bad beat when you are statistically the favorite. You have to play for value in cash games.
 
P

ProGuy

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Oct 21, 2008
Total posts
38
Chips
0
I think the AK/AQ theory has a lot of merit to it because it seems you either win a decent pot with these hands or lose a big one. I stacked a guy off last night while he was holding AK. I had the 24c and two clubs hit the flop along with an A, I also had a gutshot draw. I rivered a club and pushed all in over the top of his river bet and he called. Not sure what he was thinking because he could only beat a bluff in that scenario.

In my experience, winning small to mid size pots with these two hands is important for any session. I can fold with these hands easily though, probably to easy. Internet poker taught me that trick, but the casino crowd will generally go down with the ship if they pick up AK or AQ.
 
chuG

chuG

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 22, 2009
Total posts
312
Chips
0
Folding pocket pictures pre-flop, when I decided I had it in my power, the BR wasnt descent orienteered.
 
intiekkeko

intiekkeko

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 11, 2010
Total posts
164
Chips
0
Every hand in every situation can be difficult to play

Do you judge your game on if your AK beat 10 10 and stuff like that or if you have AA and dont make enough chips and stuff like that?

You have to be able to fold any hand in poker no matter how good it it

Just my opinion

inti
 
E

Eclipsenz

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 18, 2009
Total posts
185
Chips
0
The difference between winning sessions and losing sessions is just luck! That simple. you can play the greatest poker youve every played but you get few bad beats you have a losing session. Ive justlost 2 sit n gos. plaing well. Guy went all in i called with queen queen another called.. Both had ace jack. and yes you guessed it an ace hit the flop!! incredible. Then other sit n go had a k suited guy went all in i called. he had 6 7!! flop hits 6 77!!!!!!! wtf. Thats the diff between winning and losing sessions. doenst matter what hands you have, how much a fav you are your still going to have huge bad beat runs and have losing sessions. Luck is the difference.


Ak vs 67 or lower cards ain't a bad beat though.

neither is the flip when you had QQ and both of the others had aces.. always before the flop the flip it was gonna be 30-70 at the very least.

Having the dicipline to fold strong hands to what you feel has even stronger is a big key, set over set, flush over flush, you flopping a fh turn or river gives villian bigger fh etc..
 
Last edited:
Poker Orifice

Poker Orifice

Fully Tilted
Platinum Level
Joined
Jan 19, 2008
Total posts
25,602
Awards
6
CA
Chips
968
I'd say.. "it depends".

There's no way that an overall session or tournament play can come down to how we choose to play AK/AQ hands.

It might depend upon whether or not you win a flip with AK or AQ in tournament play (but same with many other hands)
 
C

Chemist

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
May 17, 2009
Total posts
1,480
Chips
0
I actually understand the AK/AQ theory and if it works for OP then that's great, but it is still costing money to find out.

I actually find a couple of games of solitaire is a good indicator of how the cards are falling for me.
 
Top