Originally Posted by Retouraupasse
With hi-lo the VPIP will be even higher because you call on third street far more often than you'd call with a basic hold'em starting hand.
All the same, thanks for the input.
I play up to 3/6 hi lo, usually around .25 or .50 limits, have been doing well at it for years... now, you are absolutely wrong with this statement. The only way to consistently win in stud8 is to limit starting hands to those with scoop possibility, like 3 babies suited, 3 lo w str8 draw etc. You are playing way too many hands; I expect you are also playing high pairs or 2 lo with a rag, or small prs -- those hands should only be played under optimal conditions, if at all. The PLATINUM rule (Todd Brunson) is only play hands that can pay both ways. Yr VPIP should be around 20%.
Your sample size here is way too small to indicate anything. But if u keep playing so many hands, you will definitely lose in the long run.
Get Ray Zee's book on Hi Lo split poker.
Originally Posted by absoluthamm
Haha, beat you to it dmorris.
Ok, so I did some research for you and found out about the VPIP for Stud. A VPIP of about 20% is just about perfect in full-handed game. Anything between around 18-25% can't be too terrible at a fullhanded game just because of the extra betting rounds, but anything lower is playing too tight and higher is being too loose. As the stakes go up and the antes get larger in relation to the betting sizes, you need to steal more, because other players are going to be stealing more as well.
Stud and Stud8 are different games, altho I think a 20% ballpark is acceptable in both. BTW stakes do not go up in limit cash games, so that strategy does not hold. MTTs are a whole different ball of wax; we are talking ring here.