Originally Posted by xXSmuggla
I'm the one who told him to not do it too often. I was just looking out for a fellow CCer. Read my post on the original thread you were talking about I dont want to double post it in here too.
Here is your original quote, since this is a thread made kinda because we (you and I) derailed the other post, albeit with good intentions.
"I would not consider doing that too often, it is a form of cheating called collusion and Full Tilt will kick you off and keep your money."
"Fletchdad, I agree with you that obviously the OP is not trying to gain bankroll during this session, he is doing it for educational purposes. Personally I think this is morally right....but at the same time it IS collusion. I was just warning the OP so his BR does not get taken by Full Tilt.
From Full Tilt Policy
"We take cheating very seriously and will suspend the accounts of any player who is found to be sharing hole card information during a hand, “chip dumping” during ring games or tournaments, or engaging in any other form of cheating.
What I dont know is if there was sharing of hole cards, chip dumping etc. ( I dont think so) I dont think the skype mentioned was during the game, so simply playing intentionally with a player who can give you advice after the game is over is not "cheating" if no collusion is going on. That is the reason for my thread here, as I looked up "collusion" and am not convinced that "collusion" per se was being practiced here. I appreciate your mentioning this however, cause it COULD be seen as suspicious if two players are on the same game too often. But I also cant imagine that playing intentionally with a better player who is trying to kick your ass and expecting you to keep him from doing so (as well as the other players) but explaining what he did and why he did it after the game as a form of coaching, as long as it is real poker and no noticeable "different play" is observed as collusion. You simply know this one player may attack you cause you are you, I see that - and do that c- often. I attack players who I think can be exploited, as a coach would do, I dont do it for coaching but for profit, but the play is the same...no???
I am not stating anything here as an absolute, I want to know how others see this.
I actually may be being real naive here, and this may be reason for account freezing. I also think it would be a case for saying "hey, its on the up and up" but accts are frozen and it is certainly not fun to get them free again, so maybe give me a heads up here if anyone knows more concrete info.