Dealer Ruined My Play in Freeroll Tournament

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I was playing at Delaware Park in their $5,000 freeroll tournament on Thursday when the wheels fell off the train for me due to a dealer 'purposely' exposing my hand to the rest of the table. I looked down at King-Queen suited in the big blind. Action came around to me after 2 people called and I pushed All-In with about 8 BBs left. Everyone folded. The chips were pushed towards me and I threw my hand in Face Down. As I was looking down stacking the chips, the person to my left said "So that's the type of BS hands you go All-In on?" I looked up and the dealer exposed my hand as he had those 2 cards in his hand. I am fuming !! I called for the TD as this is now putting me at a unfair disadvantage. The TD does nothing and lets the tournament continue with 13 players left. 5 hands later, I pushed All-In with Pocket 10s. The player now to my right said "You still pushing with garbage hands? You have a weaker hand than me." He calls and turns over Ace-Queen Suited. He hits Trip Queens on the flop and eliminates me in 12th Place.
 
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Well AQs isn't a light hand. So he might have called your all-in anyways. But, that doesn't mean the dealer is off the hook. I've had my share of crappy dealers and the only thing you can do is continually report them if they're honestly giving you an unfair advantage because that's not right.
 
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At what here the dealer himself climbed with a pocket, ran into a higher card, purely bad luck just here (
 
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At what here the dealer himself climbed with a pocket, ran into a higher card, purely bad luck just here (


Maybe it was the variance that exists in poker, sometimes we rely on luck instead of math. GL
 
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The dealer shouldn't have done it, and shoving with KQ suited against two limpers when you are short stacked is hardly a bad play. It sounds like you let the guy next to you get under your skin more than the dealer's mistake. Considering you were probably still small stacked when you shoved with your pocket 10s, it's likely the guy with A-Q was going to call you any way. So it probably had no impact on your outcome. Learn to control your emotions a little better and you'll be okay.
 
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They should of move u to another table so no one would have a read on u.
 
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How tight do people play if they are folding to an 8 bb shove after limping? Yeah the dealer made a mistake but saying the dealer ruined your tournament is just incorrect. With under 10 bb you can't expect to shove and have everyone fold any hand but the very top of their range.
 
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This is all very odd. Who considers KQs a garbage hand when you have 8BBs? Shoving there is good, aggressive poker. Not sure what the dealer was doing exposing cards, but I don't see it being a big deal. Being a short stack, you could be shoving with almost any decent hand to limpers.
 
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I was playing at Delaware Park in their $5,000 freeroll tournament on Thursday when the wheels fell off the train for me due to a dealer 'purposely' exposing my hand to the rest of the table. I looked down at King-Queen suited in the big blind...

This post is the epitome of results oriented thinking. The dealer shouldn't have exposed an uncontested hand. His bad.

However, the dealer did you one whopping favor here. When you have 8BB left at the latter stages of a tournament, (K,Q-s) is a helluva of a hand to jam. That your opponent would say it's a "BS hand" speaks volumes about his play. I would expect him to be a nitty cash player who hasn't adjusted to tournament play.

So he won his flip with (A,Q-s) when you jammed it with pocket tens. Yeay for him! You still had the equity edge and you got him to call as a 'dog. That's a better result than if he stayed nitty, played perfect and folded. So he flopped trip queens and knocked you out. You still made the right play, and you would still like for him to call that AI. Getting the chance to double up twice in five hands is an incredible stroke of good fortune.

Spend more time rubbing your luck box, and make good decisions. There will be more freerolls.
 
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Nothing a floor can do except talk to dealer after down.

Are we sure that they didnt flash to someone and dealer turned them so all can see? If anyone sees your cards all get to see.

This didnt hurt you at all and you are trying to push the blame.
 
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also do not understand where does the dealer?
 
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That sucks. That totally changed your table image. Especially late in tourney it's more important.
 
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Dealers screw up all the time they are human unfortunately.
 
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I'd be interested to hear a bit more detail - physically picking your cards up to expose them is more work than just sweeping them into the muck with the rest of the deck before reshuffling for the next hand, which is what makes me think there must have been something more to this or some other reason?

As for the way the following hand played out, that's not the dealer's fault. Pushing with TT in that spot is standard, calling with AQ likely is too, and the hand basically plays itself. It's not like villain called you with AQ just because he saw your previous hand. He's probably calling in that spot regardless.

They should of move u to another table so no one would have a read on u.

So... this isn't a thing that would ever happen, and besides that, the tournament is down to 13 players. There's only one other table active.
 
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AQ live is a big hand late in a tournament, he was always going to call especially if he substantially out- chips you, that is the way poker rolls.
 
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I think your cards were visible somehow, or were you playing with cheats
 
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Weird. You must have been careless with your letters and he managed to spy for a moment. There's always a smart guy trying to see the other guy's face, and he did it.
 
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well he is always calling you there and pushing 10s aint garbage in a late tournament, i guess id say unlucky and hopefully the dealer learn his mistake. Realy nothing the TD could do there other then letting you keep playing on a diffrent table.
 
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You're down to the last 13 people out of whatever number entered initially. So we can presume they are all at least competent players right? So whatever gave you the impression that people didn't already know you're likely to shove with any 2 picture cards given your stack size? You didn't get called because nobody had anything to call you with not because everyone thought you were a tight player. And even if they did think you're a tight player anyone with an AT or better hand would call your in that spot regardless of your table image simply because they know that at worst they're only a slight underdog to win considering what someone with your stack size is likely to play.

The dealer made a mistake for sure. In the end though, you were getting into a coin-flip no matter what. You lost the coin-flip because variance. Not because the dealer made a mistake.

Now, think about this. You lost a free-roll that was not yours to win that day regardless of who you want to blame but YOUR actions might have cost someone his job because you're obviously not skilled enough to know the difference between bad luck and bad people conspiring against you.
 
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If he thinks KQ suited with 8 BB bad to push all in with then he was definitely going to call you with AQ. Dealer shouldnt have exposed your hand. But the hand you went busto on was going to happen the same way regardless of the previous action, you just lost a flip.
 
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i dont believe the dealer did this on purpose there is no reason for it were all human maybe its just a mistake
 
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unlucky there with the flip but AQ suited was always gonna call however the dealer was in the wrong exposing your hand
 
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As many stated before, what the dealer did was completely wrong, but I dont think he ruined your turnament. Its a common call with AQ against 8BB.

However he shouldnt have shown the hand to the others, that is really bad and shouldnt happen at any stakes or any skill level!
 
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AQ is a good hand for call 8-10bb shove lol.. and you have big chance to double up mate, just unlucky flop.
 
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It was bad luck, nothing more.
Let's say that happens to your opponent, then you would think it was correct,
The game follows relax
 
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