creative and fancy poker

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hi guys, ive heard these terms getting used, and would like to know what consists of creative or fancy poker and do people on here do it......would you only do it on mtt's rather than cash tables......does creative poker mean starting with 7-2o hoping to flop a gutshot straight draw?.....has anyone on here actually played a 7-2.....what hands would you classify as creative hands?

do you have to have alot of knowledge of the game to adopt a creative play?....does it depend on the strength of the table you are playing at?....
 
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refers to slowplaying pre and post, 3bing light, doing things like check/raising with air and so forth

its obv for advanced poker players who really know their opponents, have good reads on them and such, and is only practical when youre playing opponents who are actually good.

ie, i will 3bet a lot of tight opponents with suited connectors. obv their starting hands are better than mine a ton of the time, but i do it cos they fold lots and combined with position/hand reading skills etc i have a large advantage postflop.
not hard to work out that doing stuff like this at 2NL would be pointless, as the masses there are loltards and theyre just going to call you nearly all the time, so you end up playin a big pot with a shit hand- not practical lol
 
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What you see on high stakes poker is creative/fancy poker.

It's not as easy as it sounds, you have to be a solid player who can put people on hands and know what they will/won't call.

It's not very practical to do it in micros so don't try doing it there if that's is your plan. Try to improve your game to a very solid ABC poker, then incorporate using hand ranges of villians against them.


This is what makes poker attractive to the "noob" players, is watching high stake players bluffing others of big hands with absolute air and when people try putting it in their games, it goes completely wrong in most cases and you end up burning a ton of money for your limits.
 
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To correctly utilise fancy/creative play you d need a good understading. Things like c/r flop then c/r turn with air is an example of creative play since it's not a standard line but it's gonna rely on your opponent taking the line of thought you want them to take, even at low stakes you're rarely going to find goos spots to get creative sine most people are just so simple.
 
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72......hell i 4bet with J2o just to piss them off
 
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Fancy play is anything that is not the straight forward obvious play. Most of your money in poker is made from doing the obvious thing. Most players use fancy play in order to keep their opponents guessing, to throw players off, or as an advertising expense. Fancy play is raising with air, 3betting light, check shoving, going all in with nothing, min raising a 3bet, etc.
 
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@ddeely so its basically how donkeys play normally haha
 
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Don't bother until you're playing higher stakes. A stolen post that I have written on a post it stuck on my computer when I play micro stakes:

General tips for 25NL and below:

· If a passive opponent starts raising or betting strong, you should probably fold without a set or better.

· Don’t bluff any fish.

· Don’t play back at any fish.

· Always keep in mind*who*you are playing against.

· Fold more. A common mistake at the micros is to call too much, just fold. ‘Oh but that flop doesn’t his his range, blah blah blah’ –*NO!*Just fold.
· They aren’t playing back at you.*If someone at the micros raises you, they usually have what they represent. If you think a fish is trying to steal from you and you don’t have anything to fight back with, just fold. Let him take the pot, you can stack him later. You will get bluffed at poker and people will steal pots from you, get used to it.

· Seriously, fold more.

It's certainly helping my winning rate, hopefully it will help yours.
 
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Don't bother until you're playing higher stakes. A stolen post that I have written on a post it stuck on my computer when I play micro stakes:

General tips for 25NL and below:

· If a passive opponent starts raising or betting strong, you should probably fold without a set or better.

· Don’t bluff any fish.

· Don’t play back at any fish.

· Always keep in mind*who*you are playing against.

· Fold more. A common mistake at the micros is to call too much, just fold. ‘Oh but that flop doesn’t his his range, blah blah blah’ –*NO!*Just fold.
· They aren’t playing back at you.*If someone at the micros raises you, they usually have what they represent. If you think a fish is trying to steal from you and you don’t have anything to fight back with, just fold. Let him take the pot, you can stack him later. You will get bluffed at poker and people will steal pots from you, get used to it.

· Seriously, fold more.

It's certainly helping my winning rate, hopefully it will help yours.

thanks humps, nice post...and i agree with everything in it, i suppose you have to treat microstakes nl the same way you would treat FL

value bet when you have close to the nuts or a set/trips and fold when you dont...im learning, i folded 2 kings, when an ace hit the flop, i didnt want to but i just new that 1 of the 2 players most likely had it......turned out they both did.....im making more folds now with good starting hands....gl at the tables
 
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Good stuff. There's always another good hand around the corner with cash games so folding is always an option in a tricky situation. Live to fight another day and all that.
 
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Just curious here is creative /fancy play also check raising with say the nut boat , or the nut flush to get extra bets or money in the pot ?

does any of this type of play do anything at the table or players that maybe watching ? what I am asking here is does this influence how they may react to you now or in later hands ? if so why is that ?


Have a good day gus201
 
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its not fancy unless youre the aggressor but then decide not to Cbet so you can check raise. pretty stupid as you broadcast the fact that you have the nuts. youre much better off with a bet/bet/bet line
 
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so you have to be the agressor for it ot be fancy play ? and the situation at hand does not come into play so I should bet , bet , bet even if the other player or players are know to fold easily ?
 
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I love getting fancy. I am a trap player all in all. I think the biggest thing i poker is reads. Have to always throw a player off. Sometimes traps do blow up in your face, but all in all they pay off.
 
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