Creating a new full tilt account when you already have one.

Well, I just created a new Full Tilt account so I could join a rakeback program. The rakeback site I will be using won't let me use the rakeback on an old account, you have to enter the code for them right when you create your Full Tilt account.

I know this is against the rules for Full Tilt but I don't care, I looked at my miscellaneous stats on sharkscope and they've made so much money off of me from the rake it's almost like they are robbing me. I created a new account and so far I haven't entered in my home address and other details. I plan on transferring some money to it from my old account to get started. Is there anyway Full Tilt can catch me?

Yes, easily, and especially if you're trying to get around the rule with rakeback.

Don't bother with this, it won't work.

How could they catch me Chuck? I'll transfer some money from my old account, so I won't need make a deposit from my visa check card, so I won't have to enter in my account personal details. They won't even know my name or address for my new account.

Bentheman87 said:

How could they catch me Chuck? I'll transfer some money from my old account, so I won't need make a deposit from my Visa check card, so I won't have to enter in my account personal details. They won't even know my name or address for my new account.

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Your computer connects to the internet with a unique identifying number that can and will be traced to the old account.

KyleJRM said:

Your computer connects to the internet with a unique identifying number that can and will be traced to the old account.

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Yep - and when you start transferring fron one to the other....

Sad thing is they will close both accounts when they catch you.

Bentheman87 said:

How could they catch me Chuck? I'll transfer some money from my old account, so I won't need make a deposit from my Visa check card, so I won't have to enter in my account personal details. They won't even know my name or address for my new account.

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I bet they read this forum, too. Greed is the downfall of many.

And a secret is only a secret if you don't post it online

well i had 2 accounts and they banned me from 1 and left me with the other but i didnt try to get any rakeback or to cheat or whatever
but the thing is there is a double standard with this because if u play high stakes u can create as much accounts as u want and not get banned

anyway u pprobably will get banned unless u play 200-400nl or plo

Argghhh this sucks. If I took a minute to join rakeback when I created my full tilt account a few months ago, I would have another 8 or 9 k in my account right now. But I didn't know about rakeback when I first created my account. Can I ask you guys this, does pokerstars take as big of rakes from players as Full Tilt does? I already know that Pokerstars's point system is better than FT's but Pokerstars doesn't allow any rakeback.

ok well what stakes u play?

"Your computer connects to the internet with a unique identifying number that can and will be traced to the old account."

You mean an IP address. Well, I play on Full Tilt regularly on at least 3 different computers. On my laptop at my dorm, on my laptop at my house, or at my desktop at my house. What if I don't start transferring funds or playing with my new account until I'm back at my dorm (I'm on winter break now) at a different IP address? And what if I transfer funds from my old account to a friend, who then transfers the funds to my new account? How could they catch me?

Bentheman87 said:

"Your computer connects to the internet with a unique identifying number that can and will be traced to the old account."

You mean an IP address. Well, I play on Full Tilt regularly on at least 3 different computers. On my laptop at my dorm, on my laptop at my house, or at my desktop at my house. What if I don't start transferring funds or playing with my new account until I'm back at my dorm (I'm on winter break now) at a different IP address? And what if I transfer funds from my old account to a friend, who then transfers the funds to my new account? How could they catch me?

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that is more suspicious of foul play IMO

I don't play 200/400 nl lol. Usually $1/$2 or $2/$4 holdem.

ok well the rake is about even at those stakes on both sites

If you don't log on with the same IP, I guess you could get away with it.

But how will you cash out without supplying info?

Bentheman87 said:

"Your computer connects to the internet with a unique identifying number that can and will be traced to the old account."

You mean an IP address. Well, I play on Full Tilt regularly on at least 3 different computers. On my laptop at my dorm, on my laptop at my house, or at my desktop at my house. What if I don't start transferring funds or playing with my new account until I'm back at my dorm (I'm on winter break now) at a different IP address? And what if I transfer funds from my old account to a friend, who then transfers the funds to my new account? How could they catch me?

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They may not catch you initially, but they will when you go to cash out. There are always posts popping up on here from people who say..."I tried to cashout and FT banned me because I had some other account back in 2001 that I forgot about and it didn't even have any $ in it!!!! HELP!"

The rake is the rake. I don't know if your 8k-9k rake figure is an exaggeration or not, but if it isn't, then you should be doing well enough that rake shouldn't be a bother to you.

Think of it this way...Delaware has no sales tax. If you lived in California would you move to Delaware just to stop paying sales tax? Probably not. There will always be someone somewhere in life who is probably getting alittle bit more than you for the same stuff. But you shouldn't sweat it.

I think you are causing yourself more problems long term by having this new account.

You will get caught. Only way is new credit card/new address/new IP addy. I am going to create a new FT account when I move out of the house.

The way I see it, you were quite happy with your poker playing experience before you learned about rakeback, so what has now changed? Simple - you've found out that others are getting a better deal than you. So what? If you were content before you knew about it, there's no reason why you should not still be content. You are no worse off than you were a week ago (you just realised that you could be better off - but that's very different) so just settle for what you've got, and don't get consumed by jealousy or greed. Please note I do not mean that in any sort of insulting way.

If you are absolutely determined that you don't want to lose out, then open an account using the details of someone who has no interest in poker (and who you trust implicitly) change your ISP (so you get a new IP address if you existing one is static) and open a new account. I don't condone this (it's dishonest in my view) and you'll probably end up regretting it somehow.

ever heard of ip address?.....and i dont know if it is worth being banned if you like to play on full tilt.....

jupi

Yeah you guys are probably right. I opened an account for the first time with Pokerstars tho, I hear they have a better point system than FT so it probably makes up for the rake a little. I already created my new account on full tilt though, but haven't played in it yet or put any money in it yet. How do I delete it?

As far as an IP address you can add a new ethernet card and change that. In a desktop this is cheap. You're bigger problem is the laptop, and the fact that you have already linked the multiple machines together in the past as far as FT goes. So adding a new one might cause you problems.

New emails, new enet cards, new physical addresses, geesh!

I don't fault you for wanting to take advantage of offers for rakeback. FT should have their own rakeback scheme to bypass this problem and reward players. All sites should be rewarding major players. Hell B&M casinos at least offer free drinks, and that is to total strangers. I'd bet regular players get comped dinners regularly.!

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Yeah you guys are probably right. I opened an account for the first time with Pokerstars tho, I hear they have a better point system than FT so it probably makes up for the rake a little. I already created my new account on full tilt though, but haven't played in it yet or put any money in it yet. How do I delete it?

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as long as u dont play the account and email ftp u would not get into trouble for it
they will just close the account u created and leave u with the one that u normally use

premierplayer said:

You will get caught. Only way is new credit card/new address/new IP addy. I am going to create a new FT account when I move out of the house.

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I haven't played on FTP in over 6 months. Been playing Stars, but want rakeback. I was thinking if I sign up with my same name but with a different address/email/credit card, I think I should be fine. And my original account was made on a different computer unlike my current laptop I will be using with different IPs at all times (due to me being at school too).

Anyone know how well this could work?