Was this correct play? Flopped a set...

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I had pocket 99 in the cutoff and small blind raises to 12, lady in middle position calls with QJ off suit, small blind had 87 Of spades, I rreraised to 37. They both call. Flop is 10d-9d-4d they check I bet 20, small blind reraises to 40 with a straight draw, QJ also calls for her open ended and I reraise all in with about 400$ behind. They both f***ing call turn was a 6 giving him a straight, river an 8 to give the lady the higher straight.
 
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Nothing you could do on the flop. If your going to limp 3bet, your 3bet was too small way too small. I would have made something more like 68 to 73 and then when checked to on the flop(if it goes to a flop) bet big.
 
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Why didnt you raise on the cut off not to say that SB doesn't call but by you limping I'm the pot SB tried to take your blinds and then you reraising to 37 (I think a minimum raise of 50 is needed here) gave them both great odds. You're $20 bet on the flop was terrible as it indicates to an aggressive player that they might be able to blow you off an over pair. Once the lady in MP calls it gives them better odds. Overall you losing isn't a complete surprise because you were against 15 straight cards and diamonds too so you're not that as far ahead. I think you played too cute by limping in and your flop bet was terrible too.
 
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I had pocket 99 in the cutoff and small blind raises to 12, lady in middle position calls with QJ off suit, small blind had 87 Of spades, I rreraised to 37. They both call. Flop is 10d-9d-4d they check I bet 20, small blind reraises to 40 with a straight draw, QJ also calls for her open ended and I reraise all in with about 400$ behind. They both f***ing call turn was a 6 giving him a straight, river an 8 to give the lady the higher straight.



Tough spot. Definitely mis-played.
Pre-flop, I'm assuming this is a 1/2 game. Re-raise from the cutoff with 99 can be risky but nothing wrong with that. Your raise seems off but again it's acceptable. I would have maybe just called here or raised a little more. With a hand like 99 you are going to want more players in the pot.
Flop: so the pot is a little over $100 and you only bet $20. That's 1/4 of the pot so by that you're asking for a call or raise. And someone did min raise! Your bet gives them odds to call. I would have bet to $70+ on the flop. Then if I get push back here, then I'm thinking I'm beat. (There is a flush and otherwise wet board). I don't care for the shove here. You're committing all the money on this board without the nuts. At best I'm re-raising.
Your shove would be the correct play to give them the wrong odds to draw. But as we see they weren't folding anything. Really nothing you're going to be able to do. I'm going broke in this spot as well. You didn't mention their stack sizes. It does happen. I had 3 sets of trips within an hour last cash game I played. KK, TT and 44. Every single one flopped trips. Lost every single hand to flush or straight.
 
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Yes, normally they are going to play, just luck on their side
 
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just an unlucky runout. could of raised bigger pre and on the flop to get them to fold but looks like they were not folding for nothing. people over value trips on draw heavy boards imo and get themselves felted without the nuts.
 
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as you pòsted, since you are describing your opponents cards, the game was already finish.
Actually need to analyze without the info and I would Fold! :deal:
 
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I think its just a bad luck but ur bet on flop must be bigger with 3x9 :)
 
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You played it badly at every point. $37 isn't going to frighten anybody when you appear to be playing with loose players. Your bet on the flop was even worse, you gave them too good odds, considering there were three diamonds in the flop, with a possible straight and a flush draw. If you were going to go all in you should have done that rather than $20
 
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I would have bet a bit larger on the flop facing two loose gambling villians. Although I think your re-re-raise shove was a bit too over the top (most people aren't calling $400 into a $100ish pot to chase straights) but I definitely agree that going with a re-re-raise was good to , perhaps unintentionally, correct your pitifully small initial flop bet.

Other than that bad luck.
 
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You bet WAY too little on the flop initially. And yes, you shoved after the raise but....what did they have behind? $400? $100? I mean if they're playing for stacks of $400 on a draw ....that's tough. IF they're going to be short after they fold and they already have what they have in...make sense to call.

But if you pot it on the flop, they may think twice raising you at least and seeing what the turn brings and you can act from there. By you only betting $20 after a 3 bet pre you're looking pretty weak and the all in shove looks like a complete bluff. (which, I guess is what you want?!?!) Set on a draw heavy board is always tricky especially multiway.
 
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OKAY I don't know what the **** is going on but the flop was not THREE DIAMONDS , there was 2 diamonds and a spade EDIT


can't even edit my original post... what the f***ck is this baloney
 
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But what kind of tournament? A lot depends on what kind of tournament, I think up to $ 30, it's no wonder, if you even went in on the flop, he would have a stake with a draw and an over card, without a chance for you.
 
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An interesting distribution.
After the opponent in the small blind raised pre-flop , I would have folded pocket card 99 or just call a re-raise. But after the flop, I think you need to go all-in. Here already it is necessary to rely on luck, because your opponents caught on the flop draw.
 
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An interesting distribution.
After the opponent in the small blind raised pre-flop , I would have folded pocket card 99 or just call a re-raise. But after the flop, I think you need to go all-in. Here already it is necessary to rely on luck, because your opponents caught on the flop draw.

I was guessing my opponents had something liek ace-jack or etc with that raise and they just flatcall me instead of going all in (which alot of players who have pocket aces do)

I was semi right as the lady had queen-jack off suit which is a horrible hand and the guy with 87 suited even worse,
 
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I was guessing my opponents had something liek ace-jack or etc with that raise and they just flatcall me instead of going all in (which alot of players who have pocket aces do)

I was semi right as the lady had queen-jack off suit which is a horrible hand and the guy with 87 suited even worse,

In this trade, you had the strongest starting hand. Considering how your opponents are betting - I estimate their pocket cards as monsters, and so I would fold 99. But you have opened the flop, and you got the set - I think there is no need to wait, perhaps your rivals also have a couple.

As they say, in poker wins the one who got in the turn and river.
 
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I would have probably played it the same way depending on if I could get a read.
 
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When you make a play with the best hand its never the wrong decision. However, with 2 other people in the pot, and that coordinated of a board, I definitely at least want to see what the turn is before I stick all my money in there. Because if that turn is a diamond, thats changing all my plans.
 
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Flop was a juciy one - potential straight draws and flush draws; I would check-call the flop and decide later according to the turn and river. Sometimes less is more.
 
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I had pocket 99 in the cutoff and small blind raises to 12, lady in middle position calls with QJ off suit, small blind had 87 Of spades, I rreraised to 37. They both call. Flop is 10d-9d-4d they check I bet 20, small blind reraises to 40 with a straight draw, QJ also calls for her open ended and I reraise all in with about 400$ behind. They both f***ing call turn was a 6 giving him a straight, river an 8 to give the lady the higher straight.

You played correctly, but I would put all the chips after the flop.
 
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Why didnt you raise on the cut off not to say that SB doesn't call but by you limping I'm the pot SB tried to take your blinds and then you reraising to 37 (I think a minimum raise of 50 is needed here) gave them both great odds. You're $20 bet on the flop was terrible as it indicates to an aggressive player that they might be able to blow you off an over pair. Once the lady in MP calls it gives them better odds. Overall you losing isn't a complete surprise because you were against 15 straight cards and diamonds too so you're not that as far ahead. I think you played too cute by limping in and your flop bet was terrible too.


Exactly ! Your mistake was in the fact that you made a small bet, thereby you gave the opportunity to more of your opponent to participate in the bank, that you reduced your chances of having a duck. You had to defend your set and put quite a lot, you had to get opponents to buy their draws at an expensive price!
 
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