Is This Collusion?!

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Seat 1: davemcpot (2,779)
Seat 2: a1_hamoudi (3,460)
Seat 3: wallybbird1 (4,140)
Seat 4: gemini0421 (3,990)
Seat 5: BlackBunsSon (2,225)
Seat 6: motaudio (5,436)
Seat 7: ShoopMyWhoop (12,775)
Seat 8: TolyaLychshiy (270), is sitting out
Seat 9: alaniaris111 (5,425)
ShoopMyWhoop posts the small blind of 120
TolyaLychshiy posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to a1_hamoudi [As 8c]
alaniaris111 folds
davemcpot folds
a1_hamoudi folds
wallybbird1 folds
gemini0421 folds
BlackBunsSon raises to 515
motaudio folds
ShoopMyWhoop raises to 790
TolyaLychshiy folds
BlackBunsSon raises to 1,065
ShoopMyWhoop raises to 1,340
BlackBunsSon raises to 1,615
ShoopMyWhoop raises to 1,890
BlackBunsSon raises to 2,225, and is all in
ShoopMyWhoop has 15 seconds left to act
ShoopMyWhoop has requested TIME
BlackBunsSon has been disconnected
ShoopMyWhoop folds
Uncalled bet of 335 returned to BlackBunsSon
BlackBunsSon has reconnected
davemcpot: wtf???
BlackBunsSon shows [3h Qs] Queen Three high
BlackBunsSon wins the pot (4,020)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,020 | Rake 0
Seat 1: davemcpot didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: a1_hamoudi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: wallybbird1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: gemini0421 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: BlackBunsSon collected (4,020)
Seat 6: motaudio (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: ShoopMyWhoop (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: TolyaLychshiy (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: alaniaris111 didn't bet (folded)
 
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I misread it and thats reason I deleted my previous post. I thought at first glance that shoop was the one who had dc'd, but after noticed that shop actually folded. Definitely collusion, IMO.

Report it to the cardroom in question. It's been know to happen on pokerstars that if a player is found colluding in a tourney, the other entrants get their buyin refunded. It's worth a try, you got nothing to lose. Actually a plus if you can get the few cheating, colluding scumbags banned for good!
 
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Please contact the support of the poker room and send this hand history, seemed collusion yes ... I think so.....
 
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I misread it and thats reason I deleted my previous post. I thought at first glance that shoop was the one who had dc'd, but after noticed that shop actually folded. Definitely collusion, IMO.

Report it to the cardroom in question. It's been know to happen on pokerstars that if a player is found colluding in a tourney, the other entrants get their buyin refunded. It's worth a try, you got nothing to lose. Actually a plus if you can get the few cheating, colluding scumbags banned for good!


This sort of thing happened to me 2 years ago at Pokerstars, I reported it and everyone did get their buy in back, not only that the two in question also got banned.

I would report this it doesn't look right.
 
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Please follow up and let us know the results of the investigation.
 
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Thanks for feedback guys, i did report that to FTP , they'r investigating it , i'll keep u updated.
 
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Most definitely colluding. Hope they get banned.
 
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yea 100% chip dumping defnitely let someone know.. Rediculous that people do this
 
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Just out of curiousity, do you know what shoopmywhoop was holding? It's been a while but I thought on FTP you could see the players hands on the hand histories after it was over.
 
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Just out of curiousity, do you know what shoopmywhoop was holding? It's been a while but I thought on FTP you could see the players hands on the hand histories after it was over.

Only on showdown. Shoop folded the river.
 
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was this a stt or mtt? what was buyin?
 
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Definitively looks like collusion... they could have done it in a much better way (not that I would do that, just saying), seems too obvious.

Hope to hear back from you with the outcome of the investigation.
 
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Definitively looks like collusion... they could have done it in a much better way (not that I would do that, just saying), seems too obvious.

Hope to hear back from you with the outcome of the investigation.
agree with u done in a very dumb and obvious way hahaha, i never done it myself and will never do it but i could think of a much better way, best not say it tho because i dont want people taking advice on cheating, i dont cheat and never will, so i hope those fkers get banned :)
 
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Definitively looks like collusion... they could have done it in a much better way (not that I would do that, just saying), seems too obvious.

Hope to hear back from you with the outcome of the investigation.
definitely
 
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just a little addition to my previous post here, back when this happened to me, not only did we get our buy ins back and the 2 clowns doing this to us got banned Pokerstars told me that it looked like they were doing that awhile and that they were going back to ALL of the tournaments that they were and would be ordered to pay back all of the money they had won.

I am hoping the same thing happens here, so yeah please let us know what happens to these scumbags.
 
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just a little addition to my previous post here, back when this happened to me, not only did we get our buy ins back and the 2 clowns doing this to us got banned Pokerstars told me that it looked like they were doing that awhile and that they were going back to ALL of the tournaments that they were and would be ordered to pay back all of the money they had won.

I am hoping the same thing happens here, so yeah please let us know what happens to these scumbags.
thx for the info, by the way , what about the winnings ?!
 
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that's the interesting part, I didn't place very well in that tournament so all I got was my buy-in back. The thing is it was only a 1.00+.10 STT, so why they chose to do this at such a small tournament is beyond me.

I'm almost positive, at least for the tournament I was in that they reviewed every hand and decided to give 1st 2nd and 3rd place money to the players that were supposed to finish there, at least I'm hoping that's what happened.

My situation was not exactly like this one though, so I'm sure they will be investigating it rigorously.

If you were close to cashing, they might just award you with one of the money spots, I guess that's up to their investigation team, the important part to remember here is at least you called them out on it and probably prevented these cheaters from doing this to other players.
 
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super sketchy for sure

what site? gonna make a note of those names these hands should be posted more often





Seat 1: davemcpot (2,779)
Seat 2: a1_hamoudi (3,460)
Seat 3: wallybbird1 (4,140)
Seat 4: gemini0421 (3,990)
Seat 5: BlackBunsSon (2,225)
Seat 6: motaudio (5,436)
Seat 7: ShoopMyWhoop (12,775)
Seat 8: TolyaLychshiy (270), is sitting out
Seat 9: alaniaris111 (5,425)
ShoopMyWhoop posts the small blind of 120
TolyaLychshiy posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to a1_hamoudi [As 8c]
alaniaris111 folds
davemcpot folds
a1_hamoudi folds
wallybbird1 folds
gemini0421 folds
BlackBunsSon raises to 515
motaudio folds
ShoopMyWhoop raises to 790
TolyaLychshiy folds
BlackBunsSon raises to 1,065
ShoopMyWhoop raises to 1,340
BlackBunsSon raises to 1,615
ShoopMyWhoop raises to 1,890
BlackBunsSon raises to 2,225, and is all in
ShoopMyWhoop has 15 seconds left to act
ShoopMyWhoop has requested TIME
BlackBunsSon has been disconnected
ShoopMyWhoop folds
Uncalled bet of 335 returned to BlackBunsSon
BlackBunsSon has reconnected
davemcpot: wtf???
BlackBunsSon shows [3h Qs] Queen Three high
BlackBunsSon wins the pot (4,020)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,020 | Rake 0
Seat 1: davemcpot didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: a1_hamoudi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: wallybbird1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: gemini0421 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: BlackBunsSon collected (4,020)
Seat 6: motaudio (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: ShoopMyWhoop (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: TolyaLychshiy (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: alaniaris111 didn't bet (folded)
 
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that's the interesting part, I didn't place very well in that tournament so all I got was my buy-in back. The thing is it was only a 1.00+.10 STT, so why they chose to do this at such a small tournament is beyond me.

I'm almost positive, at least for the tournament I was in that they reviewed every hand and decided to give 1st 2nd and 3rd place money to the players that were supposed to finish there, at least I'm hoping that's what happened.

My situation was not exactly like this one though, so I'm sure they will be investigating it rigorously.

If you were close to cashing, they might just award you with one of the money spots, I guess that's up to their investigation team, the important part to remember here is at least you called them out on it and probably prevented these cheaters from doing this to other players.


Well from what I have heard (since this happened awhile back, to a poker buddy)...the rules on Pokerstars are that once colluding players are outted, investigated and banned, PS then refunds all buyins to all players in every tournament that the 2 colluders(?) have joined and played together. If those idiots had won any money$ in any of those tournies, the calculated amount would be divided equally amongst all players within all the grouped tournament, no matter what place everyone finished in.



Disclaimer: this is hearsay, therefore please don't take my word for it, best to ask PS what happens.
 
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Well from what I have heard (since this happened awhile back, to a poker buddy)...the rules on Pokerstars are that once colluding players are outted, investigated and banned, PS then refunds all buyins to all players in every tournament that the 2 colluders(?) have joined and played together. If those idiots had won any money$ in any of those tournies, the calculated amount would be divided equally amongst all players within all the grouped tournament, no matter what place everyone finished in.



Disclaimer: this is hearsay, therefore please don't take my word for it, best to ask PS what happens.

I dont know how the payout is calculated, but I have gotten a refund along with an email explanation that I was in a game with colluders. So, yea they do compensate players.
 
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