Cash Game players are more intelligent.

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Players who regularly hit cash games for their income are consistently smarter than the tournament counterparts.

You will also notice this to be true if you actually look at the 'famous' players and the ones that do better in tournaments than cash games.

To do well in tournaments where you're not playing with complete fish who kill each other off, you must enter a psychotic mind-state where you are willing to deal with variance in favor of your enemies tournament after tournament. If you'd been playing cash games, every tiny 'win' in that tournament and 'loss' wouldn't be hitting your bankroll as pessimistic in outcome because your upswings remain in your 'wallet/deposit'.

It really irritates me when anyone says that they are 'better at tournaments' than cash games, these players are simply so bluff-hungry that they lack the mental foresight required to get a fulfilling experience from cash game grinding and need the 'thrill' of putting their bankroll at higher variance situations? What kind of argument is this?!

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Someone feeling a little insecure? awwwww,,,,,,,yes,you are a very smart fellow,and don`t let anyone say otherwise. Cheers! :cool:
 
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Oh, lol ... It's really funny ... The game for cash tables is much easier, because it does not require consideration of such factors as the position in the tournament, the bubble and much more. You just accept standard solutions. Any well-configured bot can play the cache. :D
 
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How in earth did you compare peoples intelligence by their game type choices? You're completely wrong on so so many levels... Please don't start such heat contradicting topics that are just full of misleading content! Not to cause any fights or offend you but from your last quote
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seems like you're being a bit insecure and want a little pat on the back for playing cash games in order to feel superior.
 
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I think a lot of poker players agree that in general cash games require more skill than tournaments. Still I wouldn't go as far as to conclude that mtt players are not that smart:confused:
 
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Players who regularly hit cash games for their income are consistently smarter than the tournament counterparts.

where from did you get this? or thats because you play cash and you think you are smarter :D to be not stupid and to be smart is not the same!

It really irritates me when anyone says that they are 'better at tournaments' than cash games,

thats irritate you? LOL again :D you say the same thing but opposite/

Cash game player until I die.

tell the truth, you are Gambler! :top:
 
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Sure I'm insecure. That's totally why I'm perplexed.
 
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....... agree that in general cash games require more skill than tournaments......

have you any example where you use some skills in cash that you didnt use in tournament? Any identical situation, with the same hand - JJ on BB(SB, UTG any position) dont forget that in tournament you have dif stages.
 
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Have you stopped taking your meds.
 
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have you any example where you use some skills in cash that you didnt use in tournament? Any identical situation, with the same hand - JJ on BB(SB, UTG any position) dont forget that in tournament you have dif stages.

I didn't say cash game has something that's missing in tournaments. I say that in general to be a winning cash player you need more skills as in cash it's all about the postflop decisions whereas in MTT you don't face them that much. There are different stages yep, but most of the time you need a good strategy and good preflop. Once you're short eg 30bb and lower, your decisions are rather simple. Actually I'm not trying to get into this endless argument cash vs MTT, I am an MTT player myself btw ;)
And not to mention that a lot of successful MTT players were/are cash players first and than moved to playing tournaments since the field are softer while there are not that much stories about doing the opposite.
 
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I was playing by cash in Texas Hold'em and I hold my "poker face" so it demands some intellect
 
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cash games vs intelligence?

How do ya win at cash games with little experience? Why play in cash game without experience?
I suppose I should review the basics to play freerolls to learn?
 
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Players who regularly hit cash games for their income are consistently smarter than the tournament counterparts.

You will also notice this to be true if you actually look at the 'famous' players and the ones that do better in tournaments than cash games.

To do well in tournaments where you're not playing with complete fish who kill each other off, you must enter a psychotic mind-state where you are willing to deal with variance in favor of your enemies tournament after tournament. If you'd been playing cash games, every tiny 'win' in that tournament and 'loss' wouldn't be hitting your bankroll as pessimistic in outcome because your upswings remain in your 'wallet/deposit'.

It really irritates me when anyone says that they are 'better at tournaments' than cash games, these players are simply so bluff-hungry that they lack the mental foresight required to get a fulfilling experience from cash game grinding and need the 'thrill' of putting their bankroll at higher variance situations? What kind of argument is this?!

Cash game player until I die.

What a load of horse crap. :rolleyes:

The best players in the world all play tournament poker and cash games equally well. Daniel Negreanu, Phil Ivey, Phil Helmuth, Gus Hanson, Doug Polk and many more will eat you alive no matter if it's cash or tournament poker.

And just as you get some players who do better at tournament poker than cash games you also get players who do better at cash games than tournament poker. It's not a case of one having more intelligent people, it's a case of people not being able to adapt to different styles.
 
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Cash games are more dynamic. Therefore, each decision requires more responsibility. But on the other hand - game tournaments requires skill to play strategy. So the question is moot
 
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Think you have seen it all and then "bam"! Interesting and humorous question asked here. Obviously you are smart enough to know what works for you.
 
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I didn't say cash game has something that's missing in tournaments. I say that in general to be a winning cash player you need more skills as in cash it's all about the postflop decisions whereas in MTT you don't face them that much. There are different stages yep, but most of the time you need a good strategy and good preflop. Once you're short eg 30bb and lower, your decisions are rather simple. Actually I'm not trying to get into this endless argument cash vs MTT, I am an MTT player myself btw ;)
And not to mention that a lot of successful MTT players were/are cash players first and than moved to playing tournaments since the field are softer while there are not that much stories about doing the opposite.
I both tried to be a die-hard cg, sng and mtt player. I found that the dumber and riskier I played, the longer I lasted in say 8/10 tournaments with 2/10 my risks went wrong. The safer and more logically I played cash games, the more money I made.
 
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I do not think that the cash game players are more intelligent, the truth is that the game strategy is different in relation to playing a tournament. Cash game tables are played with real money and that makes a big difference. From my appreciation you play better poker since you rarely see players playing "bingo"
 
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Are two different modalities. It is like comparing the games of limete and those of no limit. It would not measure a person's intelligence by the type of game. Tournaments give you lots of juice and do not risk so much money.
 
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Its like comparing apples and oranges, some apples are better than some oranges and vice versa.

You could very easily make the case that tournaments are more complicated because you have the additional icm factors to consider.
 
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Its like comparing apples and oranges, some apples are better than some oranges and vice versa.

You could very easily make the case that tournaments are more complicated because you have the additional icm factors to consider.
These factors make you bluff and take stupid risks. You can get one cooler hand making the entire past 40 mins of play lose you money whereas if you'd played a cash game one cooler hand knocks you down a bit, not a lot, if you are betting proportionally.
 
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I do not think that the cash game players are more intelligent, the truth is that the game strategy is different in relation to playing a tournament. Cash game tables are played with real money and that makes a big difference. From my appreciation you play better poker since you rarely see players playing "bingo"
tournaments are played with real money too and cash games can be played with fake chips. You have no idea what I'm discussing here.
 
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I believe that it has no distintion between one or the other, what changes in my view is the way each player perfects his game, there are many tournament players and bad cash games, so it is a matter of perspective
 
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These factors make you bluff and take stupid risks. You can get one cooler hand making the entire past 40 mins of play lose you money whereas if you'd played a cash game one cooler hand knocks you down a bit, not a lot, if you are betting proportionally.

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