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Betting all chips in poker with a pair of kings without seeing the flop, turn and the river could be a shot in the foot, since it is a lottery the distribution of the cards, if the tournament is re-entry is worth the risk? The same if you have a pair of 10, J or Queen or Aces?
 
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Yes it is worth the risk since you want to acumulate chips and win the tournament not to save some $5 you payed to entry. If you don't want to risk them you should not play that in the first place.
 
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In my opinion, this is not a very good idea.
Much depends on the format of the tournament you play, from your opponents at the table, and from your position.
 
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Risk with re-entry is possible, but do not forget to play focused and with reflections...
 
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It depends on my position on the table and how many people have to play after me. In most cases, I bet everything when I have a big stack and I have to pay someones all-in with a Pair of 10's or more.
 
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I believe its worth the based on if you can rebuy and what the other bets before you are representing. I would fold pocket AA with 3 all ins or more even though i have the best hand starting, that's just me. You have to play your style but don't give up a winning hand online players are hard to read sometimes.
 
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Yes, there is always a risk, when I play, I do not always bet in oll-in
I look at the situation at the table and then decide, it all depends on your position and how the players play, but if you go in with the re-entrance you need to play carefully and not get into the same situation as the first time !
 
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In my opinion, yes, it is a good idea especially if it's a tournament with re-entry.
 
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yes, it's worth it, in a re-entry tournament
 
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friend, I am master at losing with AA pair and I am a master at winning with a pair of 10/10, the game is very unpredictable.
 
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Im all good with a pre flop all in with AA or KK. With QQ it all depends on the situation and opponent tendencies...
 
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Really depends on the blinds/stack sizes/fold equity but it really shouldn't be out of your range of possibilities.
 
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Betting all chips in poker with a pair of kings without seeing the flop, turn and the river could be a shot in the foot, since it is a lottery the distribution of the cards, if the tournament is re-entry is worth the risk? The same if you have a pair of 10, J or Queen or Aces?


I don't usually focus on the idea. I do notice that people who stay higher up on the weekly point leaderboards (NLOP, etc...) use that strategy. They play to win big with one hand at first and double up while they can still rebuy if they loose. Once they double up things get a little easier for them.

That is how you play if you want to get somewhere or go nowhere at all in a tourney. Obviously in cash games, you have to be a little more cunning.
 
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I don't usually focus on the idea. I do notice that people who stay higher up on the weekly point leaderboards (NLOP, etc...) use that strategy. They play to win big with one hand at first and double up while they can still rebuy if they loose. Once they double up things get a little easier for them.

That is how you play if you want to get somewhere or go nowhere at all in a tourney. Obviously in cash games, you have to be a little more cunning.


thats good advise for a starting player,but if you sit at a table and notice ppl trying to dbl with a7 tighten up and stack em w the favorite.let them build your stack and the prizepool lol
 
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With reentry, and cash in the pocket to pay a 2x or more, I go all in with even smaller ones.
If you go for theory, KK is profitable to play from All in, in the long run, this is not questionable. The problem is that in live does not have to volumar as online, so sometimes a pair of KK needs to be folded into a FT by the ICM factor, and that of the to hold a little more ...
And do not forget, nobody wins a tournament in the first hand !!
 
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I've watched many videos of how all the pros play, and I don't see them go all in unless they are getting short stacked and will be blinded out soon. With AA, I will do it every time, whether cash game or mtt.; someone has to get lucky to win and I don't have to get lucky because I already did!
 
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Kind of hard just to base this shove on a rebuy. Seems like you are expecting to lose.
You need to consider your position and how many other players are in the pot or which ones might call your all-in. I would maybe 4 bet to eliminate some players and maybe even get heads up. The odds would be better.
 
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thats good advise for a starting player,but if you sit at a table and notice ppl trying to dbl with a7 tighten up and stack em w the favorite.let them build your stack and the prizepool lol


A great opportunity when you read it! Don't know how much to raise? Let that guy tell you!:cool:
 
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Poker is a game of emotions, when you go all in with an AA pair or a connector no one can guarantee you that you will win, or even that someone will call your all in. So you have to understand that the game has its moment of great emotions
Betting all chips in poker with a pair of kings without seeing the flop, turn and the river could be a shot in the foot, since it is a lottery the distribution of the cards, if the tournament is re-entry is worth the risk? The same if you have a pair of 10, J or Queen or Aces?
 
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Betting all chips in poker with a pair of kings without seeing the flop, turn and the river could be a shot in the foot, since it is a lottery the distribution of the cards, if the tournament is re-entry is worth the risk? The same if you have a pair of 10, J or Queen or Aces?
Nothing with a pair shove is assured, random distribution. that is true, can be self-inflicted wound. One factor is if the rebuy isn't much, how many chips rebuy gets you, and if it is early or late in the tourney. Early rebuy may make sense if you're aggressive, and don't mind rebuy cost.
Later in tourney, if blinds are up, a rebuy sometimes will let you play only a few more hands.

If playing live, heads up, the whole shove with pair scenario is altered by the lower number of opponents you have to defeat to win the hand.
 
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It depends on my position on the table and how many people have to play after me. In most cases, I bet everything when I have a big stack and I have to pay someones all-in with a Pair of 10's or more.


What you're talking about?
What depends on position when Hero's got KK. What make any difference ? :icon_boun
 
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When You all-in pre-flop with a pair,you have more chance you win Ax.I prefer to all-in with pair pre-flop.
 
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You go all in if you are getting short stacked, to reduce the number of callers and improve your odds of wining the hand.
 
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can going allin when it's big pair.
 
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Depends on the table, but in general just raise big and see the flop and go from there
 
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