Ben Joffe's Ice cold deck's

Has anyone of you guys seen this?

http://www.benjoffe.com/holdem

It blew my mind, not because I would start scamming people, but because there are people like that out there. There's even one for Omaha. Amazing!

Wow...very cool

Wow thats amazing but would take a lot of time to set up

For those of you who, like me are a little sceptical of just clicking any old link. This is not a link to a scam or or bot. The author explains how to stack a deck so that no matter which way it is cut you will know what hands are dealt.


Very interesting in terms of the math, and fun to try by yourself. I wouldn't suggest trying it for real, except like he mentions, as a "magic trick".

Yeah, I linked to it mostly because it's so effin' clever!

I saw it first on Scam School and was like "No way! That's impossible!". Well, it clearly isn't

Also, If you're dealing with unobservant people, you can even do it a couple of times in a row buy cutting the deck twice the second time or something, mystifying it even more

Yes but isnt the deck usually cut After the "shuffle". Isnt the deck shuffled after each hand played.... If not then Im not playing at this table.

nc_royals said:

Yes but isnt the deck usually cut After the "shuffle". Isnt the deck shuffled after each hand played.... If not then Im not playing at this table.

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Yes, when a deck is arranged these ways that no matter how it is cut the dealer will have the winning hand. If your not paying attention someone could switch decks to one pre-arranged in this way, and no matter how the deck was cut they would win.

suit2please said:

Yes, when a deck is arranged these ways that no matter how it is cut the dealer will have the winning hand. If your not paying attention someone could switch decks to one pre-arranged in this way, and no matter how the deck was cut they would win.

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Here's an example of how it could be done.

YouTube - poker- how to cheat at poker-hendon mob

The "Ice cold deck" is nice because you don't need an accomplice to cut it, but it wouldn't usually lead to stacking the opponents like in the video.

I wish I had known about this the last time I sat down at a 22 player table and wanted my buddy in middle position 8 to be guaranteed a win!

That's pretty, but hard to accomplish. You really need someone else to exchange prearranged deck when is cutted by the player beside you.

x2486 said:

I wish I had known about this the last time I sat down at a 22 player table and wanted my buddy in middle position 8 to be guaranteed a win!

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Pure win!