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Autorating players in poker tracker
Does anyone here autorate players in poker tracker, and if you do do you use the default rules supplied in the program or do you have some custom rules. I play NL, so if anyone has any good rules for autorating players and is willing to share, let me know.

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The default ones are ok.
Here are some others you might try: Autorate Rules Begin Aggression:N ARI_12 1 Calling Station 1 2 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 25.00 15 4 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.20 3 1 35.00 Went To Showdown % is greater than 35.00 ARI_4 2 Vanilla/ABC 15 5 1.00 2.00 Aggression Factor  Total is between 1.00 and 2.00 1 5 25.00 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 25.00 and 35.00 2 5 4.00 9.00 Preflop Raise % is between 4.00 and 9.00 ARI_2 0 Fishy (LPP) 1 1 40.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 40.00 2 3 7.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 7.00 15 4 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.20 ARI_3 0 sLP P (minifish) 15 4 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.20 1 5 25.00 40.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 25.00 and 40.00 2 3 7.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 7.00 ARI_5 0 sLA P 15 4 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.20 2 2 7.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 7.00 1 5 25.00 40.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 25.00 and 40.00 ARI_6 0 TA P (tricky?) 1 3 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 25.00 2 2 7.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 7.00 15 4 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.20 ARI_7 0 LA A 1 1 40.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 40.00 2 2 7.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 7.00 15 1 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.20 ARI_8 0 LA P 15 4 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.20 1 1 40.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 40.00 2 2 7.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 7.00 ARI_9 0 TP P (Rock) 1 3 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 25.00 15 4 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.20 2 3 7.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 7.00 ARI_10 0 sLA A 2 2 7.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 7.00 15 1 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.20 1 5 25.00 40.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 25.00 and 40.00 ARI_11 0 sLP A 1 5 25.00 40.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 25.00 and 40.00 2 3 7.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 7.00 15 1 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.20 ARI_13 0 TP A 15 1 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.20 1 3 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 25.00 2 3 7.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 7.00 ARI_14 0 LP A 1 1 40.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 40.00 2 3 7.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 7.00 15 1 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.20 ARI_15 0 TA A 15 1 1.20 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.20 1 3 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 25.00 2 2 7.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 7.00 Autorate Rules End The above were taken from here. A possible improvement on the above taken from here (http://www.andymcnish.btinternet.co.uk/newauto.htm): Autorate Rules Begin Aggression:N ARI_3 1 XLoose (Vp$iP 55%+) 1 5 55.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 55.00 and 99.00 ARI_12 2 Calling Station 15 5 0.01 1.00 Aggression Factor  Total is between 0.01 and 1.00 3 5 30.00 99.00 Went To Showdown % is between 30.00 and 99.00 1 1 22.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 22.00 ARI_4 3 Showdown Muppet 4 5 1.00 29.00 Won $ At Showdown % is between 1.00 and 29.00 3 1 15.00 Went To Showdown % is greater than 15.00 ARI_7 4 UltraAggressor 16 2 2.75 Aggression Factor  Flop is greater than or equal to 2.75 17 2 1.70 Aggression Factor  Turn is greater than or equal to 1.70 18 2 1.70 Aggression Factor  River is greater than or equal to 1.70 ARI_6 5 WT (Weak Tight) 3 5 1.00 13.00 Went To Showdown % is between 1.00 and 13.00 ARI_8 6 sLA 1 5 22.00 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 22.00 and 35.00 16 2 1.80 Aggression Factor  Flop is greater than or equal to 1.80 18 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  River is greater than 0.10 17 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  Turn is greater than 0.10 ARI_10 7 LA 1 5 35.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 99.00 16 2 1.80 Aggression Factor  Flop is greater than or equal to 1.80 18 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  River is greater than 0.10 17 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  Turn is greater than 0.10 ARI_15 8 TA 1 3 22.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 22.00 16 2 1.80 Aggression Factor  Flop is greater than or equal to 1.80 18 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  River is greater than 0.10 17 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  Turn is greater than 0.10 ARI_2 9 Fishy (LP) 1 5 35.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 99.00 15 5 0.01 1.30 Aggression Factor  Total is between 0.01 and 1.30 ARI_9 10 TP (Rock) 1 3 22.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 22.00 15 5 0.01 1.30 Aggression Factor  Total is between 0.01 and 1.30 ARI_13 11 sLP 15 5 0.01 1.30 Aggression Factor  Total is between 0.01 and 1.30 1 5 22.00 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 22.00 and 35.00 ARI_5 0 T N/unknown 1 3 22.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 22.00 ARI_11 0 sL N/unknown 1 5 22.00 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 22.00 and 35.00 ARI_14 0 L N/unknown 1 5 35.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 99.00 Autorate Rules End For six max: Autorate Rules Begin Aggression:N ARI_3 1 XLoose (Vp$iP 63%+) 1 5 63.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 63.00 and 99.00 ARI_12 2 Calling Station 15 5 0.01 1.65 Aggression Factor  Total is between 0.01 and 1.65 3 5 33.00 99.00 Went To Showdown % is between 33.00 and 99.00 1 1 33.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 33.00 ARI_4 3 Showdown Muppet 4 5 1.00 33.00 Won $ At Showdown % is between 1.00 and 33.00 3 1 20.00 Went To Showdown % is greater than 20.00 ARI_7 4 UltraAggressor 16 2 2.75 Aggression Factor  Flop is greater than or equal to 2.75 17 2 2.00 Aggression Factor  Turn is greater than or equal to 2.00 18 2 2.00 Aggression Factor  River is greater than or equal to 2.00 ARI_6 5 WT (Weak Tight) 3 5 1.00 14.00 Went To Showdown % is between 1.00 and 14.00 ARI_8 6 sLA 1 5 33.00 46.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 33.00 and 46.00 16 2 2.00 Aggression Factor  Flop is greater than or equal to 2.00 18 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  River is greater than 0.10 17 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  Turn is greater than 0.10 ARI_10 7 LA 1 5 46.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 46.00 and 99.00 16 2 2.00 Aggression Factor  Flop is greater than or equal to 2.00 18 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  River is greater than 0.10 17 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  Turn is greater than 0.10 ARI_15 8 TA 1 3 33.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 33.00 16 2 2.00 Aggression Factor  Flop is greater than or equal to 2.00 18 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  River is greater than 0.10 17 1 0.10 Aggression Factor  Turn is greater than 0.10 ARI_2 9 Fishy (LP) 1 5 46.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 46.00 and 99.00 15 5 0.01 1.65 Aggression Factor  Total is between 0.01 and 1.65 ARI_9 10 TP (Rock) 1 3 33.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 33.00 15 5 0.01 1.30 Aggression Factor  Total is between 0.01 and 1.30 ARI_13 11 sLP 15 5 0.01 1.65 Aggression Factor  Total is between 0.01 and 1.65 1 5 33.00 46.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 33.00 and 46.00 ARI_5 0 T N/unknown 1 3 33.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 33.00 ARI_11 0 sL N/unknown 1 5 33.00 46.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 33.00 and 46.00 ARI_14 0 L N/unknown 1 5 46.00 99.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 46.00 and 99.00 Autorate Rules End Just cut and paste into a text file (Notebook), save to desktop, and PT should allow you to import them. I think you are missing out on a lot of PTs capability if you don't rate ring game players. GameTime+ HUD is free (get it from the link from the PT site) and will overlay these stats right on the table for you. 
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Hey AG. I made my own ratings. It took me a long time to tweak them, but they are a combination of what I've read experts say is optimum (65% VPIP) and what I personally look for (aggression & raising, etc.).
Can you critique them for me? Anyone else with some expertise can feel free to, also. Autorate Rules Begin Aggression:Y ARI_2 1 Fish 15 3 0.75 Aggression Factor  Total is less than 0.75 2 4 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00 20 3 55.00 When Folds  Preflop % is less than 55.00 3 3 33.33 Went To Showdown % is less than 33.33 ARI_12 2 Calling Station 15 3 0.75 Aggression Factor  Total is less than 0.75 2 4 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00 20 3 55.00 When Folds  Preflop % is less than 55.00 3 2 33.33 Went To Showdown % is greater than or equal to 33.33 ARI_8 3 Gambler 15 2 0.75 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 0.75 2 4 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00 20 3 55.00 When Folds  Preflop % is less than 55.00 ARI_7 4 Loose Chaser 15 3 0.75 Aggression Factor  Total is less than 0.75 2 1 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than 5.00 20 3 55.00 When Folds  Preflop % is less than 55.00 ARI_10 5 Loose Aggro 15 2 0.75 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 0.75 2 1 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than 5.00 20 3 55.00 When Folds  Preflop % is less than 55.00 ARI_14 6 Avg. Flopper 2 4 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00 20 5 55.00 65.00 When Folds  Preflop % is between 55.00 and 65.00 ARI_5 7 Average Player 15 3 1.00 Aggression Factor  Total is less than 1.00 2 1 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than 5.00 20 5 55.00 65.00 When Folds  Preflop % is between 55.00 and 65.00 ARI_4 8 Average Aggro 15 2 1.00 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 1.00 2 1 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than 5.00 20 5 55.00 65.00 When Folds  Preflop % is between 55.00 and 65.00 ARI_13 9 Weak Tight 15 3 0.65 Aggression Factor  Total is less than 0.65 2 4 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00 20 1 65.00 When Folds  Preflop % is greater than 65.00 ARI_9 10 Rock Tight 15 2 0.65 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 0.65 2 4 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00 20 1 65.00 When Folds  Preflop % is greater than 65.00 ARI_11 11 Above Avg. 15 4 1.00 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.00 2 1 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than 5.00 20 1 65.00 When Folds  Preflop % is greater than 65.00 ARI_6 12 Good Tendancies 15 1 1.00 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.00 2 1 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than 5.00 20 1 65.00 When Folds  Preflop % is greater than 65.00 13 3 2.00 Win Rate Per 100 Hands is less than 2.00 ARI_15 13 Very Good 15 1 1.00 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.00 2 1 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than 5.00 20 1 65.00 When Folds  Preflop % is greater than 65.00 13 5 2.00 40.00 Win Rate Per 100 Hands is between 2.00 and 40.00 ARI_3 14 Optimum 15 1 1.00 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.00 2 1 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than 5.00 20 1 65.00 When Folds  Preflop % is greater than 65.00 13 1 40.00 Win Rate Per 100 Hands is greater than 40.00 Autorate Rules End 
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re: Poker & Autorating players in poker tracker
Sorry I didn't have much time to look at them (I've been packing !).
Pretty good looking, I see where your logic is coming from. Here are some constructive criticisms: 1. Why do you use "when fold %" instead of "vp$ip" as your measure of how loose a player is? I think you are skewing the numbers by not using vp$ip. You may want to tighten up some of the info these stats are giving you: 2. For "calling station" you have it as just a fish that sees the river more. However, when looking at the icon/description in a game the information you are looking for is how likely is this guy to call vs be bluffed. In other words, his stats don't necessarily have to be as fishy as the fish for him to be a calling station (i.e., vp$ip doesn't necessarily have to be as high). 3. Also, someone seeing 50% of flops you define as LAG. I would want to see that person get the "gambler" label instead. I suggest lowering your looseness line from 55% down to 35% across all categories (not just the lag/gambler distinction). 4. Same with aggression. You seem to draw lines at either .75 or 1 (for the better players). I would bump this up, to 1.35 and 2. 5. I think your definition of weaktight is off. Maybe you are using it to mean something different than what I generally consider it to mean, but the main stat here is NOT seeing the river, despite other stats like good low vp$ip and pfr%; i.e., the guy folds far too often when he should not be. Hope those comments make sense and help you tune them up! 
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two more cents
Autorate Rules Begin Aggression:N ARI_10 1 MANIAC LAA 1 2 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 35.00 2 2 10.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00 15 2 2.00 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 2.00 ARI_6 2 LAA 1 2 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 30.00 2 2 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00 15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 1.50 ARI_12 3 Calling St LPP 1 1 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 20.00 2 3 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 5.00 15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.50 3 2 45.00 Went To Showdown % is greater than or equal to 45.00 ARI_2 4 FISH LPP 1 2 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 30.00 2 3 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 5.00 15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.50 ARI_14 5 LPA 1 2 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 30.00 2 3 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 5.00 15 1 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than 1.50 ARI_7 6 sLPP 1 5 20.00 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 20.00 and 30.00 2 4 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00 15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.50 ARI_11 7 sLPA 1 5 20.00 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 20.00 and 30.00 2 3 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 5.00 15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 1.50 ARI_8 8 LAP 1 2 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 30.00 2 2 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00 15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.50 ARI_5 9 sLAP 1 5 20.00 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 20.00 and 30.00 2 2 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00 15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.50 ARI_4 10 sLAA 1 5 20.00 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 20.00 and 30.00 2 2 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00 15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 1.50 ARI_9 11 ROCK TPP 1 4 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 20.00 2 3 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 5.00 15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is less than or equal to 1.50 ARI_13 12 TPA 1 4 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 20.00 2 3 5.00 Preflop Raise % is less than 5.00 15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 1.50 ARI_15 13 TAP 1 4 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 20.00 2 2 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00 15 3 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is less than 1.50 ARI_3 14 TAA 1 4 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 20.00 2 2 5.00 Preflop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00 15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor  Total is greater than or equal to 1.50 Autorate Rules End 