re: Poker & Alright, so here's the situation for y'all to analyze
Originally Posted by QuackQuack22
So I got some Northerner playing at a casino with me and he thinks he's a yankee with a purpose. Well, anyhoo, I pick up Q10 on the button in an 8 hand game. All folds but one call (3/6 no limit blinds). So, anyway, I pop it to 30 hoping just to scoop and run. Small blind calls, big blind folds, original caller calls. We got ourselves a big ol' pot brewin'.
Flop: 9/J/2 rainbow
Betting: 1st player leads out with 40, second guy folds, I call
Turn: K, completes the rainbow (and my straight)
Betting: 1st player leads out with 240, I push all in for 800. He insta-calls.
He turns over J's full of 9's. Did I ever stand a chance of him foldin' or was he gonna stay on the rope for all the time?
Originally Posted by ThePokerGuru
You played the hand horribly...You make it 30 to try to take down a $15 pot?...then you call 40 after the flop comes trying to chase the straight... your a classic case of a donk...you probably think you got bad beat huh...
I wouldn't say "horribly". QT on the button PF isn't the greatest
to raise, but it isn't horrible. If he read the limper and blinds as tight, he may have gotten them to fold. Plus with 15 in the pot, a raise to 30 makes the pot 45. The first caller would have to call 24 or 27, which is worse than 2-1 pot odds
. J9 was the one who made the bad PF play.
Hero then flops an OE draw with an over, which gives him about 3-1 on one card. By betting out 40, the villian gave 4-1 pot odds and the hero called correctly.
Hero turns a straight and re-raise pushes, of course.
Nothing "horrible" about anything, except the river card for our hero.
To answer the OP's question IMO: It would take a very, very disciplined player with a great read on you to fold his 2 pair on the turn with the pot being that size in a cash game. If a fold did happen, it would more likely happen in a tournament when a player couldn't rebuy.
BTW, "gurus" aren't usually so antagonistic. The mods can change any member's ID upon request.