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M13A13 · May 22, 2018

We have seen in some forum and poker site, players raising a lot, the world poker personalities. This cult of poker personality takes place a lot in the rooms and forum of pokerstars.
We know, that every country where PokerStars operates, there is a TEAM POKERSTARS, players that PokerStars claims to be its ambassadors. But poker is played by anyone, because in addition to being a sport, it will never cease to be a game, where luck and chance meet.
Younger players see these expression players as a phenomenon, capable of doing amazing things, but they are not, they are ordinary players. What differentiates these players from you is that they are sponsored by the site you play, and in that many tournaments that they participate in, have their expenses already paid by the site.
Every player should keep in mind that he is as good as the poker stars, and that this personality cult is nothing more than a marketing campaign to attract people paying to play on the site.
Many disagree with this thesis because they do not have so much experience of life, now you can be sure, it is very different to be an online player, having to pay their own expenses and be a player deprecated by the poker site and having their expenses often paid by the site. Likewise, it is very different to have to get out of pocket to participate in an event with Buy in of over $ 10,000, and be sponsored by any website.

Andrei Korolev · May 22, 2018

What is your reasoning?..

Amdrius · May 22, 2018

M13A13 said:
We have seen in some forum and poker site, players raising a lot, the world poker personalities. This cult of poker personality takes place a lot in the rooms and forum of PokerStars.
We know, that every country where PokerStars operates, there is a TEAM POKERSTARS, players that PokerStars claims to be its ambassadors. But poker is played by anyone, because in addition to being a sport, it will never cease to be a game, where luck and chance meet.
Younger players see these expression players as a phenomenon, capable of doing amazing things, but they are not, they are ordinary players. What differentiates these players from you is that they are sponsored by the site you play, and in that many tournaments that they participate in, have their expenses already paid by the site.
Every player should keep in mind that he is as good as the poker stars, and that this personality cult is nothing more than a marketing campaign to attract people paying to play on the site.
Many disagree with this thesis because they do not have so much experience of life, now you can be sure, it is very different to be an online player, having to pay their own expenses and be a player deprecated by the poker site and having their expenses often paid by the site. Likewise, it is very different to have to get out of pocket to participate in an event with Buy in of over $ 10,000, and be sponsored by any website.

That is, based on your words, professionals, as such, does not exist in poker, in football, in basketball or in baseball. All these are just marketing moves. ))) Have you ever wondered why the choice of marketers fell on these players? Maybe they are really a professional in their business and have proved once that they are the best, do not you think so? Then a reasonable question, and why not make an advertisement for such pros? And the fact that they have already paid for the buyin in tournaments or give money for the game or pay for transportation costs - maybe this is part of the sponsorship contract, which indicates what is included in the player's sponsorship package? All is not so difficult, if you carefully understand the details.

Andrew Popov · May 22, 2018

M13A13 - partly right! Players called "stars" are not absolutely the best players. Marketing support of the company gives them the opportunity to participate in tournaments with expensive entrances, which can not afford to most players. To win 10,000 dollars starting from zero - you need to go a very long way. And even having done it, you hardly want to spend it all on one BI.

Are players "TEAM POKERSTARS" good? It is understood that they are not small fish. It would be strange if the team invited people who do not know how to play poker. But it's enough to watch the broadcasts of many games with their participation to see how many strange actions they do during the game. Sometimes they then come up with some excuses why it was necessary to do so, but often it's just luck and chance.

And further. Star players of some poker rooms often do not show outstanding success in other venues (and I think not only because the contract prohibits them from playing elsewhere). It is possible that their successes are the merit of the room itself.

monstr999999 · May 22, 2018

M13A13 - I agree with your reasoning ))) Plant you at the same table with the pros ... not a fact, that he will show the game better than you))) money rules the world..))))
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es530 · May 22, 2018

I do not quite understand where you're coming from with everything. But these players have their contracts with the rooms for various reasons but the main thing is their game.

777jeton777 · May 22, 2018

about professionals .. I think that the player's professionalism depends on the number of cognate hands and the qualities of the person himself. but poker is such a thing that today you are a god, and tomorrow you are neither. no one needs to be envious. you have to be yourself and just go to your goal. one day luck will cast your eyes upon you. it's my opinion.

elizeuof · May 22, 2018

Everything need a good advertising, in poker would be no different. Actually the fact that a player is part of the team of a site does not mean that he is the best player, but we must take into account that most of these players have an excellent career and significant gains, even before they have entered the team.
If there was no disclosure the amount of people who would be playing poker would be lower, and the less people playing the less the volume of money will be moved, which would result in a lower profit for both players and sites.

M13A13 · May 22, 2018

The secret to success lies in one's confidence.
To be good at some you have to believe in yourself.
Many disagree, no problem before everything knew that there would be many people discordant.
Football, Basketball and any Olympic sport is not the same as poker, although many poker say it is a strategy game and will never cease to be a game of chance. Because many things happen, at the moment of the bet, you having a pair of AA can be surprised, that when it happens is called bad luck.
No problem creating superheroes and believe in them, the big problem is not believing in yourself and always thinking that someone is better than you and have any superior ability.
Anyone would win the pker stars at a confident playing table and still, that depends on the moment at all, and very different from sports, no amateur team would beat a professional team.

Statsman1 · May 22, 2018

I agree with this sentiment - if we had the big dollars of sponsorship and staking behind us, with lots of $$$ coming in from other sources that don't involve being at the table (so...winning every tournament), we'd all be poker stars.

The definition of "professional" seems to be "doesn't do anything else for a living" - so, give me a sponsor and some help with a bankroll to start so I can play the big cash tournaments, and I'll be a professional poker player too!!

M13A13 · May 22, 2018

You see the right side of things, and you know that you and the others have the same qualities, if you miss the other you can also make mistakes, especially in poker, where the bluff is part of the game, and you only miss when you lose the hand .
But the sites use TEAM, just to attract players to the tables, and for nothing more. Then you lose and you think you're not good, but you're good. The TEAM is for you not to believe in yourself and think that you lose because you still do not know how to play, it is true that your game can be improved and this for everyone.

pirateglenn · May 22, 2018

M13A13 said:
We have seen in some forum and poker site, players raising a lot, the world poker personalities. This cult of poker personality takes place a lot in the rooms and forum of PokerStars.
We know, that every country where PokerStars operates, there is a TEAM POKERSTARS, players that PokerStars claims to be its ambassadors. But poker is played by anyone, because in addition to being a sport, it will never cease to be a game, where luck and chance meet.
Younger players see these expression players as a phenomenon, capable of doing amazing things, but they are not, they are ordinary players. What differentiates these players from you is that they are sponsored by the site you play, and in that many tournaments that they participate in, have their expenses already paid by the site.
Every player should keep in mind that he is as good as the poker stars, and that this personality cult is nothing more than a marketing campaign to attract people paying to play on the site.
Many disagree with this thesis because they do not have so much experience of life, now you can be sure, it is very different to be an online player, having to pay their own expenses and be a player deprecated by the poker site and having their expenses often paid by the site. Likewise, it is very different to have to get out of pocket to participate in an event with Buy in of over $ 10,000, and be sponsored by any website.

Hi there,

i like elements of your post but i think its fundamentally flawed, my reasoning is simple, if we break down what is a sport, what is a recreational game and mix in competition - that in itself does not qualify as a sport.
Unless our reasoning is that sport encompasses non physical activity pursuits then we could include a mountain of hobbies and activities.
Poker is competition of course but what is sporting about it? What in your opinion qualifies this as a sport..
I think more evidence is needed to justify why poker should ever be classified as a sport otherwise we live to devalue real sports...

M13A13 · May 22, 2018

There will always be ideology that tries to explain a situation, and justify an issue.
Is Poker a Game or a Sport?
It is a game because you bet and make simultaneous bets and you are subject to the conditions of luck or bad luck, in that you have no way of being contrary.
It is sport because there is a certain competition where a number of people compete for the 1st place in a tournament.
However, between being a game of chance or sport, you may consider that day-to-day poker is a game, but there is the small sporting condition of playing with someone the first place position of a tournament.
In sports there are no simultaneous bets and plays are opened, luck or bad luck does not happen freely.
In poker you will make several bets, your opponent may fold, but he can beat you on the last card and still have the worst hand. He can do 2 pairs, crack and even a straight flush, in which case you had bad luck.

M13A13 · May 22, 2018

Before you argue it's a sport, remember one thing, you're paying to play and you're never getting to play.
It is certain that if you are making money, poker has won the bets of having had the best hand or having made your open mind to believe it.

M13A13 · May 22, 2018

It seems that the media and the websites have made believe in poker as a sport, a small part is and a few are not.
They just want to clear the game, they're right, most players do not need to be alienated to the sites.
You paid and lost, nobody paid for you and you lost the bet.
You paid and won bad luck from your opponent who paid the bet.
It is simple, in the sport someone pays you to play, someone wants to have playing, there are many companies sponsoring and in poker you are the sponsor.

martina pinto · May 22, 2018

I think there are times when the pro team are only chosen for fame and not for their love of poker .. and since certain tournaments are not paid by them but by the house that sponsors them, we see them at the tables, it is a way of for example in this case pokerstars is known ... linking poker as football box or any other sport.

henriquemaduro · May 22, 2018

I dont think so. Professional trains a lot more than regular, the math they do at each hand I dont even imagine.

M13A13 · May 22, 2018

Precisely, nowadays even soccer player, MMA fighter, famous models are being placed on the tables, all this to manipulate us. We know that poker is free to anyone who pays, but certain people have never made a game online, but have their tickets to play on the back of those who pay online.

M13A13 · May 22, 2018

If you play serious, you a professional, there is no math, that will make you win always or make you an eternal champion. You have to have faith in yourself and stop thinking that there are people far above you if you want to win believe in your potential.

Brandlad · May 23, 2018

The difference between no 1 and no 2 is not about their skills. It is about the decision making at crucial time.If you really pay attention towards your games and learn from your mistakes then after sometimes you are gonna be among best players.

vov4ik · May 23, 2018

If the sponsors see that he is a good player and has won many tournaments and became a champion, then why not not sponsor such a player and the time to advertise your site on such a player, I think it's normal for sites that make advertising, they sponsor not many players, Choose only one of the players they need to sponsor and advertise!

M13A13 · May 23, 2018

As I raised the issue of the sponsored game, nothing prevented me from presenting some tips on how to get some support from playing major tournaments. [FONT=Roboto, HelveticaNeue, Arial, sans-serif]
[/FONT]1 If the event is covered by the media, you can request support from your boss or a merchant group in your city, you will have to print their brand on your shirt,
2 If you have a large family, they know you play and they support you, you can ask each of them an amount to pay the entranda, in case you win the tournament, you agree to split the profits with them,
3 In addition to your family, you can also count on your friends and any winnings will be divided.

These ideas can help you promote your game, because big players play big tournaments, and poker is for everyone, no one is better or worse.

VivicvrMga · May 23, 2018

Certainly some advantage they should have for some being for so long linked to these sites.
And most of these players the income comes from other sources not necessarily playing itself.
Marketing, courses, coaches etc.

M13A13 · May 23, 2018

I fully agree, because who maintains the sites are the players online, not the famous ones.

M13A13 · May 31, 2018

These things happen so that all those who started in poker see that they are all players.
Negreanu is a popular player, he knows a lot about poker, but not all knowledge has avoided him from taking that bad beat as we all know and sometimes we take it.
He had a sequel already on the flop and ended up losing to a fullhouse on the last card. This only strengthens the thesis that all are players.

https://www.cardschat.com/news/supe...omo-beats-daniel-negreanu-for-5-million-64177

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